How are they actually going to balance the F-117

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Who said overpowered? I certainly didn’t, but at the bare minimum it’s going to be 12.0, at the highest it should be 13.0 if it cannot fight back.

But I don’t have full knowledge of all of its capabilities tbf.

Something of a fair BR. I don’t think ZSU-23-4 or Gerard’s or anything will have a chance in hell of hitting it.
It’ll be like the A-4E all over again… but worse.

What are the other weapons the su-34 has? Idk much about it other than it’ll be a good multirole.

But 8.7 for the F-117 still seems low for a fairly fast (compared to other 8.7 planes), and will have probably FNF bombs.
We shall see what the gaijin gods to I guess

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You are confusing ARB with GRB. They can and almost certainly will have a different BRs, significantly different I’d imagine. This thread is mostly about ARB (look at the tags) and not GRB

Im basing 8.7 purely on the Buc S1s BR, which is 8.7 in ARB and 9.0 in ASB. In comparison to the Buc S1, the F-117 will likely be weaker.

As for the bombs. They may have IOG, but all bombs are FnF within the context of ARB when dropped on a base. Heck the Bucs all have a bomber sight and CCIP at the same BR. So not even anything special to the F-117.

GRB, Naturally would be higher, but probably no higher than the Jaguar GR1A which has 2x GBUs at 10.3, but its stealth/IR reducing kit plays a bigger factor in GRB

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more realistically 9.3 or 9.7 for ground. it only gets 2 guided bombs and is slow

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2 LGBs which have over 10km range when launched at lower altitudes.
Still two guaranteed kills in ground RB even at 10.3.

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yeah, only 2. It’s not mcuh different from A-4E

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Ah I didn’t see this is Air RB. I just saw the post in general.

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Or even 11.3 it wouldn’t be hard.

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I think It would be better to compare it with something like Jaguar GR1A or Buc S2B than an A-4E. At least personally, but really really comes down to how the stealth and IR reduction stuff is modeled. So… Wait till dev stream/Dev server?

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isn’t Jaguar supersonic?

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With bombs, not really. But more going by A2G weapons than Airframe performance. 2x GBUs + Thermal tracking Tpod.

Assuming the stealth/IR reduction works, then it should be able to get into a release point just as well as the Jaguar GR1A can, and its basically guaranteed kills all day long.

Also F-117 has 2k bombs whilst the Gr1A only has 1K bombs. so a slightly better A2G loadout as well.

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Jaguar:
Supersonic
Has guns
Has Aim-9Gs
2 Guided bombs
10.7

Bucc:
Subsonic
No guns
Aim-9Ls
3 guided bombs
10.7

F117:
no A2A armament
subsonic
2 guided bombs

Uhh no. A-4E is a far better comparison to F117 than the Jagury or Buccy

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I believe he was talking about the S.1
Subsonic
No guns
No missiles
8 dumb bombs (I think?)
8.7

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In GRB, was comparing A2G payload more than airframes for rough placement. In ARB then Buc S1 is a fair comparison.

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My bad, but honestly in GRB the F-117 could come at maybe 9.7 ish ARB definitely no higher than 9.0. I’m not really happy with it coming at all, stealth WILL ruin this game.

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2x 2K GBUs vs SPAAG would just be broken. Totally OP with no counter, the A-4E at least has to somewhat attack and get in range of SPAAGs. Even at 9.3/9.7 most dont have a counter outside of CAP.

At 10.0/10.3 the F-117 should reliably get bombs off, but also cant just AFK safe from SPAA

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Again it’s only 2 bombs, and you sacrifice EVERYTHING else. 2 kills is not OP

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I want to see what stealth will do / how it will work and F-117 is the weakest possible test platform for it.

Also the IR reduction stuff might translate into an IR overhaul which would massively buff aircraft like the Harriers.

So its a net gain. Just needs to be at a fair BR for GRB, which is gunna be the tricky thing

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I guess so, but I feel like gaijin is going to stuff it up. I would rather it be an april fools event or such.

We do need this but I feel like the F-117 is just going to have a low IR signature like the F-5C

2 kills is not OP, the ability to get in, kill two people, then rearm is. But only at a BR that it works.

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Well… At the moment its due to the low thrust of the F-5 and not inherrently a conscious choice by Gaijin. At least that is what im hoping. If they add the ability to artificially raise and lower it. Then Harrier’s coukd see a buff and the F-5s can see a nerf. Win win.

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Eh F-117 has about double the thrust of the F-5C so I’m expecting double the missile lock thingy (idk what to call it but you understand). I am really not expecting gaijin to do a whole new IR overhaul just because of that. Hoping for it though

You seem to have forgot the Harrier is a British jet… and the F-5 is American