How are they actually going to balance the F-117

Vautour IIB at 9.0. No guns, no countermeasures, no AAM, no RWR, no radar, flies like a brick, ground spawn, no longer that fast, somewhat limited armanent and no bomb sight or any ccrp/ccip.

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Even if it can destroy a base, that has no effect to the battle itself at this BR.
The only thing it could be used for is as bait.

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On paper those numbers sound reasonable.

The only thing i’m thinking about is how it will actually perform in Air RB in regards to efficiency.
it has zero ability to take out any enemy planes, it can only drop bombs and only 2 of them so one base per takeoff at most. So even if you survive an entire match without being shot down by other planes you can at a maximum take out 3 bases for the entire match.

Those won’t make very great efficiency numbers…

Look at other bombers in the same BR range, they at least have self defence guns, main guns and/or BIG loadouts. This will have none of that. It’s going to be VERY hard to balance in air modes.

That’s actually a really good comparison. At least when looking at BR placement.
The biggest difference would be the amount of ordinance it can bring. (and 3 of the 4 bomber Vautours having 30mm canons for self defence and AI ground killing)

Since BR is based on average efficiency and the Vautour can bring 6x1000lb bombs its going to, on average, perform better than the F-117 that can only bring two bombs (i don’t know max size). So lets say you can take out one base with two bombs, the Vautour will be able to take out 3 bases in one spawn and the F-117 would in that case only take out 1 base on the same spawn.

So my guess would be a low 8.x BR placement for the F-117

As russian air player, we need finally mig 25

French bias… lmao

The F-117 is gonna be underpowered if anything

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Called the BRs pretty well I think

I don’t want to see this thing. No matter what the weight is, it’s useless. The air combat performance is not good and the ground combat efficiency is low. The weight of 8.7 is not the same. It’s not as good as 8.0, because I can do better with other planes, no matter what.

The best way is to replace him with an American drone, because his attack ability is equivalent to that of a drone. I mean, maybe,

Yeah, I forgot they added that a while ago

Oh yeah that too. F117 won’t even know if its stealth is working

tbf even if it was put at ridiculous like 8.7 in GRB, it would still only get 2 kills.

It’s prolly getting put at 9.7

It will probably have something like in ground how they have STAB on, it’ll be similar in the plane.

It might do that to a 2s6 / Roland, I think anything newer would pick it up easily.

It will pick them up. Just not as far out as it can see a “normal” airplane.

Thats all “stealth” gets you. It reduces the range at which a radar can get enough of a return to filter you out of the background noise, and makes it more difficult to maintain a track/solution on you.

That’s exactly how the 1999 shoot down occurred. At low enough frequency and close enough range they could “see” the F117, and knew where it was going to operating so they laid a trap.

In game, the easiest way to model it is to 1/2,-1/4, or 1/3 the range at which whatever system can engage it.

It will also be useless at 8.7 where they have it on dev, it’s not stealthy whatsoever, 9L locks it at 5km front aspect which is no different than a F14B on full burner.
Genuinely hilarious considering any IR lock is an instant death sentence.

Oh your telling me when Gaijin said it will have an reduced IR signature it doesn’t? Well it is 1st version of the dev server I am certain they won’t force this update out before fix everything wrong like the last one.

it is still in service, just not with the Air Force. Public knowledge is at least 3 are still operating for an alphabet soup agency

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