Hornets BR. It's too much, Gaijin

Dev Server "Hornet's Sting" General Discussion - Dev Server
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Having an AESA radar has little to no effect on the performance of the missile at this moment in time due to how Gaijin has modeled the DL.

Once fired, the Derby performs exactly the same as it does on any other derby carrier. The AESA radar is only of value in rapidly finding targets to fire at which can be useful in a dogfight but so long as a radar has a bare minimum of performance, then the difference is currently not majorly felt.

Sea Harrier FA2 at the same BR for example, finds targets just fine and its BR wouldnt radically change if it suddenly got an AESA radar, if it would change at all

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It can disintegrate on itself

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AESA, on IR missile, hmmmm the infamous radar guided python 3. plus on the kfir it doesn’t change anything since its pretty much useless to use your derby beyond the missiles active radar range due to its absolute shitty range. so aesa radar on the Kfir is just good at detecting target to fire your missile.

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And Hornet cant… because it cant speed up🤣🤣🤣🤡

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Because you’re carrying full load. Still doesn’t make it 12.0 worthy

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buddy are you insane?

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Say it again for the Russian mains complaining about 40km AMRAAMs that haunt them in their sleep apparently.

Popping 2 chaff and changing direction is basic skills for top tier.

No one should be shooting or dying to targets 40km out. It’s a waste of payload.

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Steady now. Doing both at the same time is a highly advanced tactic that most of the playerbase need a few years to master.

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I think I am going to die of cancer
After two biased topics about Hornet in the forum but in a contradicted way

  1. Hornet needs to get a drastic buff in BR because they will underperforming badly. Of course, they fly too slowly.
    (No) ← We are here.

  2. Remove multipath before premium F/A-18C ruins the match by bombing.
    (They will reach base way slower than F-4S. And they will bomb anyway no matter multipath or not)

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Honestly you could go right ahead and put Sea Harrier FA2 as low as 12.3, it’s just that much worse than even some 12.7 jets.

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We’ll have to see how it does with the rather massive buffs coming this major update already and hopefully some further buffs yet to come. But based upon relative performance to the Harrier Gr7, I think 12.3 would be pushing it a bit. 12.7 though could be argued for rather readily

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slow, poor performance compared to any 12.7 aircraft. no HMD, sacrifices guns for aim120. can at best carry 4 AHR with no guns and no IR.

its 12.7 worthy at best. BUT, decompression before moving aim120 to 11.7!

this plane is why i want BR loadouts. 2 aim9m and BOL pods and move it down to 12.0 would be so good!

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13.3. is probably too low rn. Once the thrust is corrected and the cm amount is corrected i think 13.7 alongside the f16c makes sense.

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gets 3 decent, unique and good looking jets with decent performance and great missle set and radar
Still complains
???

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It’s fine, Harriers with 120’s is on 13.0, Su-34 - 13.3, JF-17 - 13.3, even while Hornet can take 10 AMRAAM’s - it cant be used effectively, to set it to 14.0

14.0 is for F/A-18E

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I really want to know what you are smoking while thinking to send F/A-18C Late. into 13.3

you really think that
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4 AIM-120 on subsonic fuselage need to have just one step lower than 10x AIM-120 on supersonic fuselage?

“But what about Su-34, you commie bastard.”

  1. Su-34 has 8 R-77, not 10.
  2. Su-34 don’t have HMD unlike F/A-18C Late does.
  3. Normal R-77 act worse than AIM-120A/B.

Are you dreaming ‘Danger Zone S2’ in 2025?

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Damn you’re somewhat delusional. Harrier is subsonic with no HMD, Su-34 is a bus, JF-17 doesn’t have HMD

F-18 has a radar comparable to an F-15, good maneuverability, and amraams. It can easily survive 14.0

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Honestly the air BRs of the Hornets are the least concerning thing about them. The A and C early are essentially non starters in GRB at their respective BRs and need to go down - they lack ordnance. The C late seems like a very high performer within its flight envelope and should be fine at top tier.

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Not every jet needs to have good ordinance for the BR, If you lower it in GRB it just terrorizes the other planes at that lower BR and dominates the Sky. It’s like the Mig23MLD (or varients around that plane) they could be lower due to not having good ground ordinance, but then would just smack the living crap out of every other jet trying to do CaS or just survive. It would not be a good time for anyone other than the jet that is under BR’d

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The f18c late is easily the worst 14.0 in the game. Even if the CM amount is fixed and brought to 120, without bol pods and apg79, f18c late will be the weakest 14.0 besides the finnish f18 for the same reasons but the finnish one cant get apg79. Especially if they correct the thrust and bring it down. 13.3 is too low, 14.0 is too high. 13.7 is where it should go.

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