So tell me how have you played them? The tactics I mentioned work quite well even with spaa present
But you can clearly see from the screenshots that I have posted, and the videos I have posted about how that is just not the case.
There are definitely better players than you and I, and those players are doing very well despite having to deal with SPAA.
You can just watch videos of experts. I’m bad at explaining things as-is, and I’m not about to spend an entire day to learn how to explain what I and others do for a singular experience when the entire next month is get Chally 1 prototype, collect data for spreadsheet, play Monster Hunter Wilds, let alone IRL duties.
Learning how to explain things is something I am trash at, so I cannot abide by your request regardless of my desire to do so.
It’s obvious that helicopters like Ka-52 and Spike/PARS slingers could go to 12.7, with Hellfire slingers staying at 12.0.
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lol People not naming Mi-28NM, Rooivalk, and Z-10 is also proof enough that Ka-52 is fine at 12.0 let alone the vastly superior SPAA compared to these vehicles sitting at 11.7.
How is the ka-52 on the same level as fnf slingers? Fnf helicopters are the only ones that can deal with spaa.
Just because they haven’t been named yet, doesn’t mean that they don’t have their issues in terms of balance.
Ka-52 is generally the most noticeable in terms of performance against most vehicles.
I would like to see that for myself, so I am willing to 1v1 you in your 11.7 SPAA of choice, against my Z-10.
Not really…
If you cannot kill a ka52 in your spaa (assuming no other ground/air threats) you have a severe lack of skill.
Say that in front of the faces of top SPAA players in competitive squadrons.
Explain to me how a ka-52 (or any other heli than fnf) can counter a COMPITENET spaa player.
Those could go up as well, especially Mi-28NM.
Z-10 could go up mostly for it’s AA capabilities though.
I’ll link you the thread about a similar topic, which discussed about it.
Give me a minute or two to find it.
I was explaining that to @MotorolaCRO not long ago.
Here you go.
Here’s some examples:
FnF helicopters are good at ignoring AAs as their efficiency won’t drop at all if AA is present on the battlefield. Their problem lies in FnF missiles not being as reliable as Vikhrs at killing ground targets, which reduces their potential.
It’s all about tradeoffs, without AA around, Ka-52 is by far the best helicopter you can use.
If AA is around, I’d give an edge to FnF slingers when used by 99.9% of the community.
99.9% XD
Those Kamov players I’ve been talking about surely are one of a kind, huh.
Considering WT has hundreds of thousands of players I’d say 99.9% isn’t that far off haha.
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This only works because they are in a squadron battle. If you are in a normal game a spaa would be way out of their spawn + may have cover to hide behind. This is also very map dependent.
I mean sure, it is definitely map dependent.
But you will never be able to kill a kamov who is alert and aware.
Shooting a missile at him will just make them go back down to cover, and expose your location.
After that, it’s only a matter of time before they find you distracted, or use the tactic I’ve been telling you guys about.
Some maps are so great for helicopters that SPAA cannot even stop them from killing their ground, unless they’re around the capture points.
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I fly a lot with the Tiger. And I have to agree. Because I don’t fly it because it plays particularly well, but because I like it, even though it (more precisely its PARS) can sometimes make you despair.
And yes. You can still use it even if there is a PANTSIR on the field. But you are welcome to check it out. My last flight with the Tiger produced one kill. A PANTSIR that was finally destroyed after the 3rd attack with a total of 5 PARS. During the last attack I was up too long (careless out of desperation), was shot at by the same PANTSIR and flew into the ground in a wild evasive maneuver. This is everyday life with 12.0 FnF helicopters. Anyone who says they have to go up in the BR isn’t playing them. Sorry.