Flawless logic. Lets give all Tiger II and the panther II 15 sec reload. They will still be better than IS-3.
checkmate.
having a 12.7mm machine gun == double the reload time and you are still better off
LMAO
If You only want good reload then go for vehicles that have it much better?
I wonder why You haven’t played Tiger II H if it is soo good.
bytheway, this not an answer, you know it right?
you realize the is-3 has less crew, a much smaller turret, and bigger caliber ammo?
It is as You are pointing out that the vehicle lost its capability to “hold its own against multiple enemies in CQC” while it haven’t and I have pointed out that other heavies that have much bigger reload are doing fine.
Wow, just as i suspected, a troll.
The only troll here is the one that only looks at reload time while ignoring that T29 is much better than Tiger II H in all other fields.
Sure, its much better, keep saying that. Unreal :D
Ignore everything, just repeat that. Flawless.
T29 is more mobile, has better armor and can defend against planes/light vehicles without having to fire main gun, I guess it is much worse!
That makes so much sense, i see it now.
I just dont have to see any medium or have tank and I am fine. 7.0 is anyways only light tanks, I rarely see a t44 or tiger II anyways. I bow before your genius, now I am enlightened.
Thanks!!!
And You can kill them with ease as You have better gun/pen/armor?
Get a room you two 😉
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I see almost exclusively heavy tanks at 6.7 or 7.0 usually. Caernarvon, M103, tons of T32s, IS-3 kinda often, more IS-2s definitely though. Funny enough I’ve only seen two Object 248’s in combat ever that I can recall, despite playing the game since it was added and owning it myself. Yet, as I mentioned before, I’ve seen plenty of Tiger 2 105’s and Panther II’s.
And to settle your debate, I’d say that ideally the T29 should be equivalent to the Tiger 2 105, but is more equal to the Tiger 2 (H). But I’d say the Tiger 2 (H) Sla.16 is actually better overall than the T29. Before the Maybach engine nerf, the Tiger 2’s were all substantially more mobile and maneuverable than the T29. Now though? Only the Sla.16 can really compete, because the time it takes to reach top speed when reversing into cover or trying to drive past an open area is now in the T29’s favor. The Sla.16 comes close to the old stock Tiger 2 engine power.
Its hard to compare reload speeds when the T29 has far better angled pen and can overpressure, while the Tiger 2’s 88mm is literally the best cannon in the game considering just a 6.7 second reload for comparable penetration. Its practically no competition, if I don’t mind having to shoot my enemy a couple of times to kill, the long 88mm the Tiger 2 has is hands-down my number one pick. Puts the American 90mm to shame, and gives the Russian 100mm a run for its money with its seconds longer reload.
Unsurprising, since it was never going to get the 105 either, so how could it get a stabiliser?? :)
Not quite. It’s 7.5s on an aced crew. Still incredibly good though.
Actually it’s the other way around. Of the proposed Tiger II upgrades, the 105 was discarded almost immediately as an idea, while other upgrades evaluated separately were considered more promising. A regular Tiger II with a stabilised gun sight is much more plausible than a Tiger II with a 105, because the latter would require the Germans actively changing their minds about the gun.
all i have of the Tiger II 10.5cm is a little article about it
if its real or not, i sadly do not know
The sketch is real, Pasholok’s own research however shows that the proposal was discontinued before a tank gun version of the 105 could be prototyped, again, because of the low RoF.
On the old forums, which is now deleted, I had a suggestion going for making the Tiger II 105 more realistic.
But this never went anywhere.
Someone posted a page from a book describing the vehicle and a sketch of the ammunition layout.
Unfortunately I don’t know what book this was. Nor can I find the image.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/VFomxE8Iozz2
Spoiler
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The t29 and tiger 10.5 should have the same reload.
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T29 should have a faster reload.
In the Tiger II only one loader can access the breach, loading both shells and charges, while on the T29 you have one loader for each.
The second loader in the Tiger II can only function to supply shells to the loader, so that he doesn’t run out of ready shells.
The ammunition layout for the 105 Tiger makes no sense because it’s made up by gaijin.
It should look something like this:
Realistic rates of fire should be something like:
- T29: 8-10s
- 105 Tiger: 12.5-15s
- IS-2: 14-16s
With the IS-2 having only a limited amount of ready propellant charges and the Tiger 105 having increased ready round replenishment time.
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