SM3 was never vulnerable to AAs.
Ain’t no way, i swear devs don’t even play their own game.
the entire arguments goes invalid
why?
because its just plain wrong
But do you also know that SPAA munnitions
are different than Heli munnitions?
The Pantsir still keep its manuverability at range, the “launch range” is the max range that the missile could reach and still be able to manuver, hence the rated range
saying that is like saying to the engineer, your missile is useless after 10km
what a stupid argument
you never play ground sim battle in your Pantsir, like ever because ground sim limit to 10.0 BR
You literally dont even know what you are talking about
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yeah the Pantsir has a coverage range of 20km and around 15km of high effectiveness range which mean that when you spawn in planes instead of going into battle you have to constantly look around and constant manuver to evade pantsir, and thats not even counting the other air platform that might have been up, the AGM-65B has a max range of 23km but the effective range is only good when you are at close range since the missile lose the booster and rely on the path way since it lose 60% of its speed instead of the KH-38mt which after booster run out still has 70% of its speed and high manuverability missile
with double the range and double the effectiveness range
which the ADATS could not lock the KH-38mt pass 3km which mind you 3km distance close up very quick unlike the agm-65b where you could instantly lock after it launch which the ADATS cannot do
your talking shite mate, you dont even know what you are talking about
irst track doesnt ping plane
you dont know what you are talking about
coming rich from a guy that the entire arguement is “skill issue” and dont even know what they are talking about
how about you reply to Conte Barraca instead of ignoring him because you couldnt convince him your stupid arguement is correct because he knows more than you do and that you know nothing?
F16 with triple mav isn’t the same as spawn su30 with 6 fire and forget kh 38 followed by 4-6 kills. Die then immediately spawn su34 with 6 MORE kh 38mt fire and forget. Your whole team literally melts…not to mention since last patch I get NO Russia/USA teamup…anyone else have that?
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sacrified 1 plane for another plane that has the same capability if not better ±
agm-65b isnt as good as kh-38mt like mr POC said here
the 65 require you to get to a closer range in order to guarantee kill instead of the kh where you can launch double the effective range of the 65b and still guarantee a kill
If you think it keeps its maneuverability at range then you’ve never played it
The only way the pantsir can hit you at range is with the radar mode
You have to set it to lead mode
Which again
If you’re 10KM away
Just change course the missile won’t be able to correct in time and will miss
And yes the heli change affected the AA’s as well
This was a major change that shook the meta up cause it meant you couldn’t defend against aircraft without countering it with other aircraft
Meaning they could sit back at 10KM and spam AGM’s and KH’s without worry of being hit
Which again we deal with this constantly this is the case
Whereas before that wasn’t the case
And heli missiles and AA missiles fall under the saclos definition in game
They were all changed with that maximum range and maneuverability in mind
If you want the ADATS do compete with the pantsir after 10KM
Provide documentation it has those modes
Submit a report
Get it changed
And there you go
You will have a better AA than the pantsir
Which even now it’s better than the pantsir
A radar mode to allow you to hit people who fly straight isn’t exactly reliable.
I’ll take the mobility of both the AA and the missile itself over just a radar mode any day of the week
except its been a while since they were accepted and no fix
same with other stuff ingame
lemme guess you never try to shoot pass 10km because you miss so many time?
you urself are terrible in the pantsir, you have never play the ADATS, you say ADATS is better than Pantsir which it is not, no spaa ingame are better than Pantsir, everyone knows it except you because you are ignorant to realize it
except in order for the SAM to correctly hit its target you would need radar and tracking
My experience it’s the same.
A missile hitting the roof of the vehicle is the same.
Also it needs to be suggested for American planes to get their ordinance as well
On top of that Russian vehicles also weren’t allowed to have their thermal targeting pods for the longest time so this is also a back and forth
While yes they had the KH-38’s
They didn’t get a thermal imager
Vice Versa
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no actually the pantsir is better than every spaa ingame because russia got a more better modern sam that other nations doesnt have because gaijin model the pantsir first but doesnt give other nation its equivalent
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There is no bias ,just incompetence topped up by old hatred of the west
Thats actually my point…no matter what other nations get russia get something just a bit better performing.
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well i mean im fine with little bias here and there but this? this is too much
What do they get that’s objectively way better?
The SAM system?
Not objectively better
It gets a radar that allows for lead at long distances
Not useful for the most part since you can literally just change course to avoid it
Everything else about it is awful
Missile speed is the only other benefit
Planes???
Yeah the KH-38 they have going for em
However up until recently you didn’t get a thermal imager unlike nato planes
So you had to get up close or get lucky to spot something in the distance
Tanks??? The only thing they have going for them is the T-90M
It’s the only tank they have rn that’s actually fairly good and doesn’t have too many major drawbacks (there are others but none that hit that sweet spot like the 90M)
Also this game isn’t based in RU it’s Hungarian.
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Meh u could take it with flarak or ito and also it was hella vulanarble to cap
Im not saying it was balanced cuz it still could kh38 tank from 12 km+ but it was tolerable and tbh i berly died to cas in that time like maybe 1/10
Also to note
Since the introduction of the first RU plane with a thermal imager and KH-38’s they increased the amount of SP needed to spawn that stuff in
So yeah even then it had its reign for maybe just a couple weeks
the same arguement that gaijin used to defend themselves against one of the players riot that fail miserably
Gaijin was found in russia and always is, if your company move from one country to another that doesnt mean your company is from the country that you move to
no it IS objectively better than any SAM system that are currently ingame
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T-90M isnt the best, armor wise yes but reverse is mid, the BVM is better since it has better mobility while inherit somewhat same armor
by how much
70 whole sp!
nice now i cannot spawn in anymore, i hate you gaijin
mind you a CAP cost the same as a CAS that has full KH and R-77 loadout
and F-15E cost more to have the same loadout
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