You don’t get the joke? You must be seriously biased. Relax.
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it also can automatically guide missiles at at least 6 targets at once, it literally can intercept an aircrafts entire load of mavs with you hitting 3 buttons
Didn’t you mean by l2p learn to play other nations? I actually do.
That was a joke. Calm down.
i think he mean russian main like Scorp over there should l2p other nation
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oh yeah even forgot about that. does that reliably work now or is it still more like a gimmick? cause a lot of times there are so many radar returns it feels like it would just wobble between the different targets and even though mavs and spikes are so slow it would just miss bouncing between targets? Can’t wait for s300s and patriots to finally be implemented to end this bs “spawn above the battlefield, spam your whole ordinance, wipe everyone on the ground and turn around immediately to rearm meta”.
If they would have at least disabled air spawns for 11.0 or higher br cas that wouldve helped by making it at least somehow risky getting into a position to be that effective with a2g ordinance but but well, why do that if you can also just put even more f&f 20 km agms and missile slingers in game. Or in Russias case, put one ground attacker and a fighter with almost the same ordinance to make sure people have enough sp to immediately spawn the other one after spamming the ordinance of their first cas jet. Just make sure people dont even have to waste 2 minutes to rearm. Gameplay for top tier rly is in one of the worst ditches ive ever experienced in this game.
That exactly this nation that can do that is also the one that has the only spaa that at least has a chance to shoot down these missiles is somehow the icing on the cake
im pretty sure its somewhat reliable, ive seen them sometimes ripple off missiles at my ordinance while guiding one at me
Better rounds except fighting enemies that are 3x better.
WoW!
Sprut fights Leopard 1’s. CV fights not Leopard 1, Not Leopard 2a4, but Leopard 2a7!
Truth hurts…surprised some in the community haven’t flagged you yet to hide your post! You hit the nail on the head! Question is…Why didn’t the geniuses that make the game see this coming? We all did as soon as it was released! The KH-38 spam is literally game breaking.
That’s the thing, you don’t need 3BM60 to fight Leopard 1s.
Having other things is much more important.
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Seeing guys like you cope on russia make me understand why nothing will ever change in the game…
Still better than people who complain about vehicle despite them being fine. Mofo be spending their life complaining about Russia , a single country in a game. Complain about a the same thing for years on end and asking why nothing get done.
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Dont forget to thank Gaijin for 11.7 premium users who doesnt have SPAA die once or twice and leaves. Thank you gaijin for respecting my money, time and grind with such blissful teammates at top tier <3
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I think that’s a bit of an overstatement. I’ve played both (ItO far more than Pantsir) and to be honest the Pantsir practically only has the better radar and 30mm autocannons for self defense over the ItO. (Correct me if I’m wrong but the Crotale is still good enough to see aircraft right when they spawn? So it kind of makes the radar advantage less relevant.)
The Pantsir is definitely better but it’s not the end all be all of Russian bias people make it out to be. What we need is better AA for every nation.
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From the perspective of the CAS Its only ever the Pantsirs that require extreme tactics to defeat. Whenever I’ve faced an It0, its pop an AGM or GBU and go about my buissness like its any other SPAA.
Pantsir. Im hard defending, deploying CMs, and employing every tactic I know to deliver multiple weapons onto the target.
When Su25 was added with KH38’s, it was just spawn AA bro.
When Su34 was added with KH38’s, it was just spawn CAP bro.
When Su30 was added with KH38’s (on a highly capable multi role platform), it’s just cope and seethe bro.
Top tier has legitimately never felt more unbalanced. The endless waves of KH38 wiping the entire team is ridiculous. Constant 4/5/6 frag chains in the feed. And even if by some miracle you manage to take whatever variant of Sukhoi it was down - he’s earned enough SP to just respawn in another and the team wipe repeats.
I don’t believe in ‘Bias’, but honestly, I’m at an absolute loss on how I can even play devils advocate for how the snail thought this situation was not only acceptable to create - but to also actively make worse over such a prolonged period of time.
Like playing Israel, honestly, what would the snail have me do? Machbet / Chaparral can do absolutely nothing. They don’t have the range to hit the aircraft, nor do they the ability to intercept. I have games where I spawn Barak/Ra’am to play CAP, and whilst dogfighting Sukhoi’s I have literally been shot down over my own airfield by Pantsirs, meanwhile my own teams rubbish 80’s/90’s AA is powerless to help me.
Ignoring all the calls of bias and the outrage, the simple fact of the matter is, the gameplay is just straight up horrific. It’s not fun. It’s not rewarding. It’s just misery for the sake of misery. Just don’t even look forward to playing WT after work anymore. Certainly not at top tier at least.
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If you’re dying to Pantsir running Su-30, F-15E, Rafale, etc then I highly recommend you alleviate your issue with skill.
@Oilydischarge
Gaijin couldn’t see it cause CAS players were genuinely terrible at the game.
AGM-65D/G were always game breaking, but it wouldn’t be until Kh-38 was added when people would finally acknowledge that basic fact.
Always ask yourself, since Kh-38s and AGM-65s were always OP, why is it that massive frag feeds weren’t more commonplace from 2022 - Jun 2024, and the answer really is skill issue.
@TheAceOfAces
“Just spawn CAP.” has been stated since 2022, almost 3 years ago. 2022 was over an entire year prior to Su-25SM3.
Top SPAA hasn’t been able to frag top CAS since Mig-27 and Jag were the most powerful CAS, and even then both out-range all but Pantsir when played correctly.
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So instead of “We should give everyone a better SPAA/We should fix map so CAS have a harder time bullying ground vehicle/We should give minor nation more vehicle due to some of their top MBT are not on par or they haven’t received anything new for a while”
We got cherry picking Russia and their vehicle along with period of time when their vehicles are the strongest.
Ignoring that despite the three period being mentioned along with those vehicles, they are not the only one terrorizing ground. CAS still as strong as ever and of course it gonna be an Isreal player. After all only isreal suffer right ? Not like Britain with a top tier line up that borderline unplayable cause their MBT is dogwater and they getting matched with US. Or Japan going through bunch of major update without any new top tier MBT. Surely your nation of choice is suffer and Russia being the one being favoured and all other nations are fine
Not once did I claim or insinuate that only Israel suffers. I was just using them as a lone example as that’s what I mostly play.
Top tier is pretty miserable for everyone right now, for a vast array of both unique and shared reasons.
I am genuinely confused at why you’re directing this at me ? Literally where in my post did I say anything opposed to this?
I am entirely the opposite of what you have bizarrely chose to stereotype me as. I’ve been extremely outspoken on the forums that everyone needs new AA and that we need reworks to how CAS spawns / functions / costs.
I don’t know, but I think there’s no Soviet bias.
Why is the T-3485 at 5.7 BR anyway? And mine got uptiers all the time.
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