Has anyone felt the bias yet?

Result of playing most vehicles at that BR and knowing their capabilities.

Magach 5 actually have better mobility than T-54s.
Having no stabilizer is common at 8.0 though.

The Olifant Mk.1A is 8.3 and is stabilized with the same round while having similar mobility to the Magach 5, I think the Magach 5 is okay at 8.0 and it’s just an issue with compression since the M60 shares the same BR.

There are a lot of tanks in game that benefit from compression (Chieftain Mk.5, T-72B obr. 1989, etc), and the Magach 5 is one of them.

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Funny enough is 99% of the time every missile that’s against Pantsir is slow, so it gets alot of time to intercept.

Best SPAA that can intercept KH38 which is a Russian missile is a Russian SPAA. What a joke!

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UK is filled with sleepers. They have 8.0 MBT with full stabilization, 105mm APDS and 5s reload which is very strong on it’s own. There’s a lot of compression here, of course.

the problem is 4 round ready rack

Vickers has more than 4 rounds in first stage.

except one

The Vickers Mk.1 has an 11 round ready rack. But the issue with it is mostly the mobility which is pretty mediocre for the paper thin armor you get. Then again I haven’t played it in well over a year and a half and so my stats in it are quite poor.

well my Ariete K/D also way higher than Strv 122 B+ as well but i still can say Ariete is sht
Leclerc is kinda OK tank in General and have lot of potential as well if Gaijin care to model it right but right now in current state?
it not 12.0 worthy compared to something like T-80BVM and Unarmored Leopard because gun mantlet can are big and easily become death zone (Leopard 2 have this problem as well but lot lot smaller) and OFL 120 F1 (Aka DM43) kinda lackluster and 5sec reload is not something so special anymore since Abrams can fire better round and can have 5sec reload too plus better armor overall.

The Abrams does fire a better round, but to get the 5 second reload you need the aced crew which the 99% majority of Abrams players don’t have (coming from experience). Leclerc gets 5 second reload by default because of the autoloader.

And the armor on the Abrams really only helps when hull down, the hulk and turret ring are paper. The Abrams has really terrible survivability too, especially now after the turret ring change which the Leclerc did not get.

And compared to the T-80BVM and Leopard 2 the Leclerc is a lot more mobile and reloads quicker.

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even expert it just like 0.3 sec slower than Leclerc (5.3 Abrams expert) depend on how much you value 0.3sec but for me it kinda not much different unless it in rarely engagement that stuck in one on one then yes it can save live

lucky them Leclerc big mantlet death zone holding it back a lot in hull down

both have terrible survivability (Leclerc exploding fuel tank which i don’t know it fix it or not but assume last time i play leclerc is like 4 months ago and still exist i guess not)

turret basket? don’t worry gaijin said all tank will get it in the future

It overall still okay tank but need buff and there are lot of bug report with document to back it up.

There isnt alot 8.0 in the game but thos who are like leo 1 and marder has good mobility or stabilizers and u meet t55 alot which are so much better
Also again magach 5 is a rare gem cuz it cant go up

Was more reference to Quantity of MBTs automatically meaning that nation is “OP” or exceptionally good. I know the leclercs are up there as some of the better tanks. But I’d gladly trade 4 or 5 of the Challenger 2s to have 1 or 2 decently modeled Challenger 2s for example.

Im sure you would be the same with the Leclerc. Youd rather have 2 or 3 decent tanks than a dozen bad ones.

Best anti-helicopter spaa goes to: USA

edit: and UK!

Huh?
Pantsir is better in every way
To helis or planes

1- Hammer.
2- And the SPAA still can’t deal with OP CAS.
3- France, Hammer. 60km launch range vs 40km. Game limitation puts both at 30km for now, and the IR versions are closer to 14km currently.
4- Best air to air missile is definitely not Soviets. AIM-120, Magic 2, PL-8B, etc are all arguably best.
5- Best ground lineup goes to USA: 6 free extremely mobile MBTs firing competitive to meta rounds to choose from vs Soviets 1 mobile MBT with 3BM60, 1 armored MBT with 3BM60, 2 more less mobile 3BM60 carriers, and the rest of the mobile tanks fire 3BM46 which is equivalent to M900.
6- Best helicopter: AH-60.
7- Best CAS: France, USA, Soviets in a 3 way tie.
Autoloader is a worse basket.

Eh… maybe, not necessarily any better than any other SPAA. But you trade that performance for the fact that you cant do anything against fixed wing CAS

ka-52 is most powerful because it can parry enemy missiles (compared to f&f / hellfires and generics that fly in an oblique trajectory), overpowering the SPAA. ADATS’s MIM missiles are great, they fly fast and are untraceable. this means that now, ka-52s cannot detect the adats to retaliate fast enough. you better listen to me, I main ka-52 and I fought every spaa…

for USSR, the adats is absolutely better than anything else. and we only get paired with USA one in ten matches or more. for fixed wing, there’s always the best fox3 of this game

Pantsir beats out the ADATS in literally every single respect.

Fixed wing CAP is problematic because it costs 10x more than an SPAA