well i mean im fine with little bias here and there but this? this is too much
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What do they get that’s objectively way better?
The SAM system?
Not objectively better
It gets a radar that allows for lead at long distances
Not useful for the most part since you can literally just change course to avoid it
Everything else about it is awful
Missile speed is the only other benefit
Planes???
Yeah the KH-38 they have going for em
However up until recently you didn’t get a thermal imager unlike nato planes
So you had to get up close or get lucky to spot something in the distance
Tanks??? The only thing they have going for them is the T-90M
It’s the only tank they have rn that’s actually fairly good and doesn’t have too many major drawbacks (there are others but none that hit that sweet spot like the 90M)
Also this game isn’t based in RU it’s Hungarian.
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Meh u could take it with flarak or ito and also it was hella vulanarble to cap
Im not saying it was balanced cuz it still could kh38 tank from 12 km+ but it was tolerable and tbh i berly died to cas in that time like maybe 1/10
Also to note
Since the introduction of the first RU plane with a thermal imager and KH-38’s they increased the amount of SP needed to spawn that stuff in
So yeah even then it had its reign for maybe just a couple weeks
the same arguement that gaijin used to defend themselves against one of the players riot that fail miserably
Gaijin was found in russia and always is, if your company move from one country to another that doesnt mean your company is from the country that you move to
no it IS objectively better than any SAM system that are currently ingame
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T-90M isnt the best, armor wise yes but reverse is mid, the BVM is better since it has better mobility while inherit somewhat same armor
by how much
70 whole sp!
nice now i cannot spawn in anymore, i hate you gaijin
mind you a CAP cost the same as a CAS that has full KH and R-77 loadout
and F-15E cost more to have the same loadout
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1- They do play their own game.
2- @Fanta_3412 Changes are only made if IRL documents substantiate it.
@Oilydischarge
6 frags do not give enough spawn points for a 2nd 972SP spawn.
You need to start with ~1300 SP for the first CAS spawn to get a 2nd CAS spawn, and even then spawning 3 more tanks is more valuable if you got 1300SP in one tank life.
BVM has half the armor of T-90M for marginally better mobility.
@MrBombastic8
Still waiting for SPAA to be added that can deal with F-15E, Su-30, Rafale, Mirage 2000D RMV, Su-34, F-15I, Typhoon, [the ones ITO-90/Pantsir can potentially intercept the missiles of but not hit the aircraft] F-16C, Gripen, F-18C, Tornado GR4 [will test Brimstones again later to see how true this one is], and F-16AM.
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You chose t-90m as example of better…smh…bvm is WAY better than t90m.
eh maybe the little weakspot under the turret ring is why he chose that T-90M is better which hes wrong anyway
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To go over this
If you want realism
And you want nato to be even better than what it is
I’m going to put this into perspective
This means
The SU series gets their base 1.21 TWR at 30% fuel and clean wings
This also means the TWR of all the MiG’s get adjusted as well
This also means they get their proper flight performance
This also means they get their proper load outs too
This also means their missiles track better
This means F-16
F-15
F-18
They lose out in turning performance
F-18 is only capable of 11g maneuvers and is limited to just that due to structural issues
If you want a more realistic game and want bias removed this is what removing the bias is. Cause again, the bias isn’t against nato it’s against Russia
The MiG series have a TWR at 30% of under .6
Base su series is .5 with the 30SM being .41
This was changed due to American air players complaining their plane wasn’t special enough
Which happens time and time again
ahem sources?
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Ahem
Go look for it
It’s publicly available
So you’re a believer in russian propaganda. Post up some RL stats on F-16, f-15, f-18, f-14 vs Russian made aircraft in air to air combat then.
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1- This is already in the game. Sukhois already have that TWR. 2820kg fuel, ~300kg for etc, and 16300kg empty.
With 23220kgf on the engines / 19420 = 1.2:1 TWR at mach 0.41.
2- This is already in the game. Migs already have that TWR.
3- Sukhois already have their proper flight performance.
4- They already have correct loadouts.
5- They already track as correctly as they can within the game.
6, 7, 8- They already have their correct turning performance.
9- F-18 is already limited to that in-game.
bias remove which mean that every tank would have accurate armor which the russian apfsds cannot pen, accurate modeling, specification, penetration, armor protection, speed, etc
mind you alot of the current NATO CAS loadout are artificially nerf due to them being OP if accurate
same with not adding accurate round for vehicle(M829A4, KE-WA3, DM63?, etc)
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I’m getting the declassified flight manual for the F-18 hold your bridges
You wanna see what it is I gotchu man
no i want to know what sources you found this from because from my sources the Su is one of the worse T to W ratio, it recently has thermal because no thermal is oudated
and mind you they are also already ingame
Honestly will probably write a bug report with those docs to have the flight performance nerfed hard on it
go ahead