Yeah, if you affirm something, i need to be sure you know your subject. As a matter of fact, it seems you don’t, since you are rarely if ever on the receiving end of KH38s
With very few battles in each, and basically none are top tier.
You were mentionning Leo’s earlier, of which the best you have is the Pzl 123, being at 10.7, it only sees the SU25 as a KH slinger, and only in a full up tier. That is why that nice story about seing KH38 as they are fired in your Leo is dubious. I won’t say it didn’t happen once, but it certainly didn’t happen on a regular basis and can therefore not be used as a valid strategy.
I usually don’t like to pull out stats, but if you are going to use the anecdote card instead of basing your argument on raw data, i’m not going to have second thoughts.
Yes, my screen too can watch 2 heading simultaneously, of course. If you have the luxury of watching the sky, it means you are not actively engaging in the ground battle at the same time, simple as.
Who would’ve thought a troll in this forum saying that the ADATS is good, and ITO is better than Pantsir and KH38MT is weaker than AASM is AKSHUALLY a Russian main…Shocker.
it also can automatically guide missiles at at least 6 targets at once, it literally can intercept an aircrafts entire load of mavs with you hitting 3 buttons
oh yeah even forgot about that. does that reliably work now or is it still more like a gimmick? cause a lot of times there are so many radar returns it feels like it would just wobble between the different targets and even though mavs and spikes are so slow it would just miss bouncing between targets? Can’t wait for s300s and patriots to finally be implemented to end this bs “spawn above the battlefield, spam your whole ordinance, wipe everyone on the ground and turn around immediately to rearm meta”.
If they would have at least disabled air spawns for 11.0 or higher br cas that wouldve helped by making it at least somehow risky getting into a position to be that effective with a2g ordinance but but well, why do that if you can also just put even more f&f 20 km agms and missile slingers in game. Or in Russias case, put one ground attacker and a fighter with almost the same ordinance to make sure people have enough sp to immediately spawn the other one after spamming the ordinance of their first cas jet. Just make sure people dont even have to waste 2 minutes to rearm. Gameplay for top tier rly is in one of the worst ditches ive ever experienced in this game.
That exactly this nation that can do that is also the one that has the only spaa that at least has a chance to shoot down these missiles is somehow the icing on the cake
Truth hurts…surprised some in the community haven’t flagged you yet to hide your post! You hit the nail on the head! Question is…Why didn’t the geniuses that make the game see this coming? We all did as soon as it was released! The KH-38 spam is literally game breaking.
Still better than people who complain about vehicle despite them being fine. Mofo be spending their life complaining about Russia , a single country in a game. Complain about a the same thing for years on end and asking why nothing get done.
Dont forget to thank Gaijin for 11.7 premium users who doesnt have SPAA die once or twice and leaves. Thank you gaijin for respecting my money, time and grind with such blissful teammates at top tier <3
I think that’s a bit of an overstatement. I’ve played both (ItO far more than Pantsir) and to be honest the Pantsir practically only has the better radar and 30mm autocannons for self defense over the ItO. (Correct me if I’m wrong but the Crotale is still good enough to see aircraft right when they spawn? So it kind of makes the radar advantage less relevant.)
The Pantsir is definitely better but it’s not the end all be all of Russian bias people make it out to be. What we need is better AA for every nation.
From the perspective of the CAS Its only ever the Pantsirs that require extreme tactics to defeat. Whenever I’ve faced an It0, its pop an AGM or GBU and go about my buissness like its any other SPAA.
Pantsir. Im hard defending, deploying CMs, and employing every tactic I know to deliver multiple weapons onto the target.
When Su25 was added with KH38’s, it was just spawn AA bro.
When Su34 was added with KH38’s, it was just spawn CAP bro.
When Su30 was added with KH38’s (on a highly capable multi role platform), it’s just cope and seethe bro.
Top tier has legitimately never felt more unbalanced. The endless waves of KH38 wiping the entire team is ridiculous. Constant 4/5/6 frag chains in the feed. And even if by some miracle you manage to take whatever variant of Sukhoi it was down - he’s earned enough SP to just respawn in another and the team wipe repeats.
I don’t believe in ‘Bias’, but honestly, I’m at an absolute loss on how I can even play devils advocate for how the snail thought this situation was not only acceptable to create - but to also actively make worse over such a prolonged period of time.
Like playing Israel, honestly, what would the snail have me do? Machbet / Chaparral can do absolutely nothing. They don’t have the range to hit the aircraft, nor do they the ability to intercept. I have games where I spawn Barak/Ra’am to play CAP, and whilst dogfighting Sukhoi’s I have literally been shot down over my own airfield by Pantsirs, meanwhile my own teams rubbish 80’s/90’s AA is powerless to help me.
Ignoring all the calls of bias and the outrage, the simple fact of the matter is, the gameplay is just straight up horrific. It’s not fun. It’s not rewarding. It’s just misery for the sake of misery. Just don’t even look forward to playing WT after work anymore. Certainly not at top tier at least.