If you don’t you won’t get a nuke:
As if half the teams for Russia aren’t made of Su-30s and 34s?
Just this morning I had a match where of 8 people alive, like 6 were in Su-30s/34s. They were just firing Kh-38 after Kh-38 after Kh-38. They’d fire them at the spawn before people spawned in, so the moment someone DID spawn they would have 5 missiles up their rear end.
Nothing changes drastically for GRB, other than it makes it truly combined arms and also allows for a hard, Capable counter, which unless its a mixed battle with Pantsir’s on both sides, we don’t have.
The other option is Ground Only, but it seems few people really want that.
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Ground RB is literally a 1v1 when it comes to CAS vs SPAA. Tanks can’t do anything, and fighters prove my point.
Common use =/= more OP.
War Thunder needs better SPAA than Pantsir to protect against Su-34, F-15E, Rafale, etc.
I’m excited to see how you spin my statements even more when my original post was clearly AGAINST russia lmao
At the end of the day, man, you wouldn’t have all of us here literally complaining about something if there wasn’t a problem it’s kind of like an intervention or a coming to Jesus moment before people say hey enough is enough Because if you can sit here and say that there is not a despair in the equipment that nations are given purposely Gaijin Could have been given these nations this equipment and we wouldn’t have this problem or argument. Honestly, the game would work 50 times better.
Newsflash bro, i only have up until rank 5 russia air so you can gtfo here with gaslighting me defending russia
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That’s like Activision making another call of duty and not allowing the Russian faction to use certain weapons or gear. You get what I mean. ?
If your post is against Russia, why are you claiming Pantsir can frag Su-34s when we know it can’t?
If your post was actually against Russia you would be SUPPORTING new SPAA superior to Pantsir to be added, not equal, not inferior, superior.
You would not be dismissing F-15E and Rafale despite having the same kit or in F-15E’s case a superior kit.
And gaslighting means to make you question your sanity; I am respecting you and treating you as an equal, that is not gaslighting.
I’m calling your posts wrong, and your posts aren’t you either.
Your memories are at least mostly correct, your psyche is fine. Anyone saying otherwise is gaslighting you.
The problem is, CAP would cost much less than those so you would see this behavior from both sides, turning GRB into something completely different.
It will change the mode drastically as having CAP cost so little would without a doubt invite people from ARB that don’t even want to play tanks. You’ll see many people having issues with current ARB implementation, where they don’t like current 16v16 and want it drastically reduced, which is something that would be on offer here.
To some markers are also a problem since they want to rely more on radar to find targets, which is already a thing in GRB.
Many people do want TO, but Gaijin doesn’t care enough to listen.
@Saberzen
I feel like there’s miscommunication between us, cause I believe your intention isn’t to defend Russia or Russian equipment.
I am merely saying that your posts are not showing your intentions if that’s the case.
Too bad we can’t see if you are on Russian team. e.g REDFOR matchup
You get there easier with single life, dying and respawning sets you back by 2-3 kills
One of my first frags in the match was against a T-90M, pretty sure I faced the Soviets.
Oh ok so its alright for Russia to have it but not ANYONE ELSE? Bold.
Just like the introduction of LGBs, CCIP, FnF, etc. etc. changed GRB. Before the Kh-38s, CAS wasn’t nearly like this. Before the MiG-27, CAS wasn’t nearly like what it was before either. People don’t like how attackers handle in current ARB state, so they go to GRB. Anything and everything you are worried about is something Attackers already do. You just don’t like it because it means you may have to work for a ground kill instead of get free ones.
I more meant few people in the Gaijin headquarters because they never seem to want it. I have seen the threads and am aware that TO is popular amongst the loud crowd.
Superior equipment is only going to be detrimental to those not having the same, I don’t want another power disparity like Russia currently has, forcing majority of the players to either flock to US or USSR, creating a homogenous match every time. I want it to be EQUAL (more or less) and COMPETITIVE so all nations become viable.
I also do support new SPAA like the ones stated by devs recently and want it to be superior but to expect that just doesn’t align with Gaijin’s way of implementing NATO equipment, a damn shame.
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So there is bias when Russia Finally get good CAS. But no when F-16c and F-15E has being a thing for longer time?.
They had good CAS since the SU-25SM3, and the BEST SPAA currently to protect it.
Also, the F-15E and SU-34 arrived at the same time.
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Soviets right now have no equipment superior to anyone else.
Pantsir is good against Tornado ASSTA, but not AGM CAS such as Su-30, Su-34, F-16C, F-15E, F-18C, Rafale, Mirage 2000D RMV, Gripen, etc.
Sure, Pantsir might intercept a missile going toward an MBT, but it’s not a guarantee that they’ll even try.
Pantsir cannot protect anything at top end, as it’s incapable of fragging any top CAS in War Thunder.
Saying Pantsir can is pushing propaganda that defends it.
Now for Su-34: Su-30SM, Rafale, Mirage 2000D RMV, and F-15E/I are at least equals; this is not my opinion this is evidence backed fact. I initially thought F-15E was worse until someone proved to me that the glide bombs are equivalent to big chaff to SPAA players.
As I said, I think we’ve had a miscommunication problem between us. You cannot claim CAS is OP and SPAA is OP, only one is allowed to be OP and it’s the CAS.
Nah Pantsirs just shoot them down so easily they’re actually not that great
If you need to be good to make a vehicle work, then this vehicle is by definition bad lol
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Might be, im definitely not pro-russian equipment but merely propping them up to highlight the absurdity of their strength right now. You can count on me outraged about the recent Abrams and Leo 2 turret basket nerfs while T tanks’ horizontal drives keep spinning when the autoloader is shot out, oh and occasionally protect ammo from detonating sometimes lol
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