Oh ok so its alright for Russia to have it but not ANYONE ELSE? Bold.
Just like the introduction of LGBs, CCIP, FnF, etc. etc. changed GRB. Before the Kh-38s, CAS wasn’t nearly like this. Before the MiG-27, CAS wasn’t nearly like what it was before either. People don’t like how attackers handle in current ARB state, so they go to GRB. Anything and everything you are worried about is something Attackers already do. You just don’t like it because it means you may have to work for a ground kill instead of get free ones.
I more meant few people in the Gaijin headquarters because they never seem to want it. I have seen the threads and am aware that TO is popular amongst the loud crowd.
Superior equipment is only going to be detrimental to those not having the same, I don’t want another power disparity like Russia currently has, forcing majority of the players to either flock to US or USSR, creating a homogenous match every time. I want it to be EQUAL (more or less) and COMPETITIVE so all nations become viable.
I also do support new SPAA like the ones stated by devs recently and want it to be superior but to expect that just doesn’t align with Gaijin’s way of implementing NATO equipment, a damn shame.
Soviets right now have no equipment superior to anyone else.
Pantsir is good against Tornado ASSTA, but not AGM CAS such as Su-30, Su-34, F-16C, F-15E, F-18C, Rafale, Mirage 2000D RMV, Gripen, etc.
Sure, Pantsir might intercept a missile going toward an MBT, but it’s not a guarantee that they’ll even try.
Pantsir cannot protect anything at top end, as it’s incapable of fragging any top CAS in War Thunder.
Saying Pantsir can is pushing propaganda that defends it.
Now for Su-34: Su-30SM, Rafale, Mirage 2000D RMV, and F-15E/I are at least equals; this is not my opinion this is evidence backed fact. I initially thought F-15E was worse until someone proved to me that the glide bombs are equivalent to big chaff to SPAA players.
As I said, I think we’ve had a miscommunication problem between us. You cannot claim CAS is OP and SPAA is OP, only one is allowed to be OP and it’s the CAS.
Might be, im definitely not pro-russian equipment but merely propping them up to highlight the absurdity of their strength right now. You can count on me outraged about the recent Abrams and Leo 2 turret basket nerfs while T tanks’ horizontal drives keep spinning when the autoloader is shot out, oh and occasionally protect ammo from detonating sometimes lol
To have what ?
No one is stopping others to spawn in a plane dude, it’s not a RU-only feature.
This is about CAP not Attackers.
I don’t want half of my team dogfighting the half of enemy team 20km from the battlefield where ground units can’t have an influence.
No, I don’t want GRB to transition into 5v5 tank battles with others larping as they’re in ARB.
They don’t want it because it might ruin their “vision” of a combined arms game.
Yes, however what you are saying is applicable to both CAP and Attackers. What I am saying is that the arguments that are being made against CAP can also be made against Attackers, and for Cap for Attackers.
Like it practically already is with Su-30s/34s? The other current option is a CAP/Attacker limiter like they have in SQRB, which I am happy with, but I have a feeling someone may not like that.
Forgot to add to Realistic, which means they get to spawn into KA52,Pantsir,Su30sm,t80’s,t90’s which literally superior to any nation can offer.
Debatable, Spikes do little to no damage to heavy tanks, can be shot down by Pantsir, while Vikhr’s speed and range are super good and let’s not forget how the Kamovs tend to eat alot of shells and missiles.
Rafale is still fighting against Pantsir and AASMs are slow which are easy target for Pantsir to interccept.
Not poor shots at all, just shells don’t spall like they do in NATO tanks.
At least Attackers wouldn’t cost pennies to spawn, further incentivizing people to hijack a mode.
With this both sides would be included and most wouldn’t even have an impact on a Ground battlefield.
Gaijin isn’t keen to place limiters on anything or make gameplay better in any ways, so I doubt something like that would be happening.
From our PoV it might be ridiculous, but they don’t want to stir the pot if it’s not absolutely needed to make people spend money again.
Same, when I got really defensive and called you out. We were on the same side all this time.
My point about the Pantsir being good was how it can still effectively chase down hard maneuvering aircraft like the F-16s and F-15s. I do it all the time but I also see your point about how ordnance like the gbu-39 can practically blind a pantsir from the real threat of mavericks or LGBs. but if it takes as much to take out a pantsir while only needing 1 kh-38 or maverick (heck even a hellfire) for the adats then isn’t there a good amount of disparity and thus superior to it?
I’d say that when talking about CAS they should be assumed to only ever target MBTs, and any munitions outside that task would be used to distract SPAA.
That’s what I think.
I also think that ADATS should be 11.0 - 11.3, and top CAS moved up to 13.0 with Pantsir moving up to 12.3.
New SPAA superior to Pantsir being introduced at BR 13.0 as they come out as well.
The issue is the platform isn’t poor enough to deserve Kh38s. It’s hard to say what it should get as a replacement since it’s russia’s only ir agm. A thermal variant of the Kh29TD( I don’t think that exists) would be well. The Kh38 shouldn’t ever been added. The Kh59 would’ve been a much better option as it’s subsonic thus easily intercept-able.