Not really bud it is an absolute beast, Relikt is a broken over performing mess. Relikt is 2 plates
sandwiched between a spacer…Why didn’t NATO think to try that why even bother with composite armoured arrays when 2 plates and a spacer makes your tank immune.
Sorry but all Russian ERA needs to be correctly modelled.
the autoloader getting hit doesnt make its turret enter orbit like it realistically would, especially as most USSR tank players carry very little ammo because of the design flaw.
but yea struggling with them is a skill issue must admit.
top tier russias only good parts are SPAA and CAS, the rest is pretty poor
i refer to previous messages
Not a German main but cool assumption British L27A1 (Britains top tier round regularly does not OHK a Russian T-90M or T-80BVM)
As I said if Russian tanks are fine why cant we have NATO tanks with the correct armour values?
because there’s no legally accessible information on how good Chobham or AMAP is
This was last game breach shot…
except it didn’t destroy the breach or injure the crew or damage the autoloader. But sure skill issue for aiming for the weak spots effectively
Do you know where he had to aim to kill me? Well anywhere
That’s the weakness map for 3BM22…That’s Russias 9.3 top round
This is what the T-90M is
you got unlucky with spall.
from that screenshot being from the world widest computer monitor it looks like you are using a challenger 2e.
if you’re not hull down or sniping you’re using it wrong, its also not as badly protected as everyone claims.
admittedly my challenger of choice is the OES or Black Night which are the best protected but they are all extremely hardy all things given
Plus the turret tossing is more of a T-72 thing because they used to just throw ammunition wherever they wanted. T-90 introduced this cool new thing: storage. Therefore, rounds weren’t bouncing around and sending people into the stratosphere. Now they were in a specific area ready to be loaded into the autoloader.
wide ass monitor where 16;9 cant see a thing
yea that’s really not awful. lose driver or generic breechings that all tanks suffer from
So what you are saying is I need to play Russia/USA/Germany or Sweden to be able to deal with the T-90Ms…Does that seem right to you from a gameplay perspective?
Maybe we increase the penetration of the shyte tanks that have nothing going for them and reduce the fire power for the tanks that have amazing armour/mobility etc. or we reduce armour ERA to realistic levels and stop the Russians from the absolute cope
Yes it’s a wide screen monitor handy for work
the ammunition carouselle being under the turret crew still means an unlucky hit creates a replacement for sputnik even with better spare ammo stowage.
And all we have for Relikt is what NII Stali claim
no. You can deal with them easily. Ive been playing a lot of 11.7 with my challies recently and its not the T64s I’m having issues with, its just the most armoured leo 2s that are one single weakpoint that is not always the easiest to bonk.
find sources that prove X or Y needs a buff or nerf, this isn’t WOT where fake figures are be all end all.
Aye true, but it’s not as common as the T-72s were. Source: I knew lads over there. I was the lucky one: I got a rifle, half a mag, and a vest that I’m 90% sure was pot metal.
That’s just not the case, I can send images of T-90Ms instantly exploding the armour really isn’t that good and in game it is over performing by a massive metric.
Yes T-72 and T-80 guys were storing shells incorrectly previously but now they limit the amount of shells i
T-90M has ammo stored in the rear turret bustle and an “armoured carousel” but in reality an FPV shaped charge through the rear or turret ring was causing instant detonation.
can do the same for challenger, abrams and especially leopard. tanks get knocked out, such is war.
this doesn’t prove armour values at all
Leopards with massive spall liners are a pain too, but they don’t have insane side armour.
CR2 is a just a bad tank and the upgrade from the CR1 Mk3 to the base model CR2 is better thermals and a better round.
Totally disagree
Russian tanks are claiming this magical ERA can stop 1200mm Tandem Heat ATGMS…
and DM53…Which has been proven is a lie.
An M1/Leopard or CR2 dying to a Vikhrs or top attack munitions sure. In game they don’t survive that.
See the issue, NATO tanks are not pretending to be armoured with this magic ERA systems that in reality are not that effective.
the russian tanks have none at all. I’ve killed them with the stormer AD a lot its hilarious.
its really not.
the chobham armour is also significantly stronger but you don’t seem to know this.
the ERA negates the first shape charge, the extreme angle of the composite armour negates the second.
shrugs russian ERA is overperforming but its still not that deep.
I’ve had inconsistencies like this happen many times with various tanks. Leopards, Abrams, even Arietes. Apfsds can be inconsistent.
