Then the community would do a huge wave again like they did before about DU being present in the hull, also its known that the SEPV3 received a huge armor addition to the hull and turret cheeks with spall and Trophy system.
Why does everyone have to do this to be balance? Do you make the same argument for Mavericks lol?
Definitely, I saw the same shit with Mavericks. People would rush in or engage in pretty cookie cutter tactics of going directly above the map and spamming mav’s with the F-5 or whatever hoping spaag were either not looking or no one spawned one and often times no one would think the wiser.
If it’s balanced or not… mostly? Think of the alternatives: Realistically it’s too late now to roll everything back. Even the idea of just removing IR weapons would just lead to the same CAS spam being decided by the weather/daylight. Removing all FnF would just replace them with laser weapons which are arguably even more oppressive especially with the new high performance laser PGM’s ingame. Why? The benefits of FnF weapons come with a downside of potentially being nullified easily. Meanwhile laser weapons are far more resistant to all countermeasures against them for pretty obvious reasons if you know how to use them.
Except this is the same flaw of logic that even Gaijin has.
They have battle rating system - they do not use it.
They have SP system - they do not use it.
They have map editor (to protect spawns, cliffs etc) - they do not use it.
It is ok for them to put ‘realistic’ weapons in the game… if they use the other tools they literally made to fix them, since they cannot edit them directly due to the realistic nature of the game vs made up arcade stats.
Gaijin does this a lot. XP-50 was overpowered for 3 years because of air spawn, a completely arbitrary thing they could fix in 30 seconds, without having to edit the vehicle parameters itself.
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2/3 of those aren’t going to actually fix it.
The BR’s are already so high that beyond moving the worst offenders away from the 11.7 premium spam I doubt it will be anything but a band aid solution that moves the problem to the top instead of dealing with it.
SP system? They already cost like 800-900 SP and making it cost 1200+ SP is really just like making it the call of duty chopper gunner killstreak(like the nuke) that can delete half the lobby; of course it isn’t that powerful so it would likely either justify its power or justify nobody using it, which is just taking away gameplay instead of fixing it.
The map editor is what they should be using, probably firstly lol. Though personally I’m also for just polishing up the SPAA and maps situation as much as possible on top of perhaps a similar command to “air alert” for ordinance e.g. “air weapon inbound!”.
Is this implying the ZSU-37-2 is op?
The highest tier prop (non bomber) is 7.0 and from 6.3 and up the majority of planes are jets. The ZSU, M163 and VEAK aren’t effective AAs despite having a radar at a “low” BR.
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This HAS to be rage bait lmao
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Spookston said the Yenisei was op in one of his videos, it must be true. Ignore VEAK 40 which is pretty much the same lol.
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are the rafale’s AASM good? are they like on par with the kh38ml? or worse?
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They’re basically the same thing but a good bit slower. So worse but still extremely effective like all CAS.
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Gaijin doesn’t balance via vehicle parameters.
They balance via BRs and they do it.
So true! Uh but american M163 is worse??? Gaijin should put it at a lower BR or something???
Jokes aside I’ve seen people unironically claim the ZSU-37-2 performs like the other 35mm AA against tanks.
And by how much money they make from selling it or the cut they get from the marketplace (see Turm III, 2S38, Object 279). Expensive vehicles are allowed to overperform massively before even being considered for an uptier.
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lolno Money has nothing to do with it.
Object 279 is over-BR’d unless decompression happens as all of its equals are 8.7.
2S38 is currently at a balanced BR.
And TURM III is a Leopard A1A1 without APFSDS that can take out some light tanks if it fires first.
All vehicles in War Thunder have to over-perform to be moved up in BR.
800-900 sp is just a fancy number that is way lower than you think. Scout farmers make it 200 and you literally start with like 300 after first spawn anyway.
People can just as easily argue that being farmed in the spawn and SPAA not worth spawning is “taking away gameplay”
I never said they did or should. But arguments can be made they do by limiting ordinance options or ammo (ATGM)
And they are horrible at the latter.
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Bro is the CEO of making USA mains look as bad as possible. It’s understandable about the CAS issues but tanks?
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@AverageWehraboo Well, I hope one day you stop seeing everyone that isn’t Russian as contrarian.
It’s bad for your mind to think everyone’s out to get you.
They are much better