Ground Vehicles **PROPOSED** RB battle rating changes

definitely not one of the best APFSDS examples out there

who owns an E100? and is it common enough for the average player to know how to deal with it?

…no the IS7 is objectivley superior

the E100 we have in game is a hell of a lot more mobile than the maus but is still (incorrectly) using a maus turret, which is easy pickings for a strong chunk of 7.7 vehicles already, shooting the hull is stupid if you can pen it or not so putting it to a BR where it will see DM63 darts is really damn stupid.

8.0 would be really unfair for it too from the uptier compression but it should be above the maus.

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Honestly i think the maus would be fine going to 7.3

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with the Strv 103 you cant face top tier APFSDS tho,so why lower the br of that vehicle

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the S tank is modelled real bad but put them any lower and they are untouchable by anything that hasnt flanked or bombed them.

plus its a 105 L7 so its gun it flat out overpowered to be below 8.0

Exactly what i am saying

One dude state the using the APFSDS from the MBT-70 its a bad example…even tho its the same br bracket…
No need to move it up nor move it down…for that we might wait for a decent decompression

Aint the only tank btw,i dont know why and how its badely modeled but if yall says so,i have no reason to argue with that

the reason i havent played the swedish tree to get it is because the mouse aim just does not translate well to it. also pretty sure it should have better on the move gun stability.

Isnt the same thing that the VT1 has?
The dual cannon race car for Germany that literally cant move the guns left or right meaning you have to move the tank which its impossible to be insanely precise since it has insane horsepower meaning you will overturn every single time

yes but the VT1-2 has a lot more power and a stabiliser, my main issue with the s tank is the vertical speed so the VT1-2 naturally wins even with the parralax on the gunsight for your second barrel

if only the raw pen was the only probblem and all the rest was fine yes the the comparison can be onlt that and it can stay at 9.0

i meant the mbt70 has the worst APFSDS at its BR by a massive margin

They have rather similar side armor, frontal, and the E100 takes the cake for rear armor.

Secondly, the only “true” benefits are the Increased mobility, and the first stage 6 round loader of the IS-7. Then, as it literally says online, the reload goes to 35 secs for the IS-7

Thirdly, both tanks will one shot whatever they pierce.

The E100 is clearly 8.0 worthy at the very least. And very very possibly. 8.3 worthy

Ngl class 3p should be on this list.

But I love the suggestion! I will add it, seems very balanced.

Out of all the things you’ve ever said…

This is the craziest. Maus is an exceptionally good 7.7

8.3 for a slightly better Maus lmao. Even 8.0 would be pushing it because of it’s low mobilty and easily exploitable turret armour layout.

In short the IS-7 has better firepower, much better mobilty, a much better reload, and equal armour when compared to the E-100.

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“Slightly better” sure. Just like the KV-1C is slightly better than the KV-1B.

That’s “better firepower”
IS-7:

E100:

Weird. 1mm pen difference and pretty much identical performance at range. You got me, it soooo better.
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it’s also strange your defending a tank you don’t own, but like most forum users, you think it’s okay for Russian vehicles to be higher than their counterparts. I could see a gap of 0.3 for the Is-7 above the E100, but anything less is pure bias

My usage of firepower also takes into consideration post penetration damage and reload speed. The IS-7 will one shot anything it pens due to overpressure, and the IS-7 can fire 3 times in the time it takes the E-100 to reload (unless aced, but even then its close).

The irony of you calling me biased as you advocate for tanks like the Kv-1E or Kv-220 to go down in BR.

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  1. With the E100s powerful cannon, it can one shot anything. Try to find something it can’t. Again, it’s an 8.0 tank through and through.

  2. The Kv-1E faces things like early panthers, and a myriad of other vehicles is cannot pen, and cannot reliably use its armor against. Same with the KV-220 which, if you hadn’t looked, go back to the origins post to see what had been changed.

The high pen round can not.

Skill issue, and don’t spawn heavies in full uptiers. I have it, and I can confidently say that it deserves it’s BR of 4.3. It’s gun isn’t that bad, and it still has a solid armour layout against anything that isn’t a Panther.

That has an armour layout equivalent the Tiger I on the hull, and good enough turret armour.

I will not discuss this further because I think that you are personally biased towards these and other Russian vehicles.

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The Panthers are all undertiered. That’s not a Kv-1 issue, that’s a Panther issue.

Just because you lose an argument, doesn’t mean I’m biased.

And he says skill issue, talk about losing and argument without saying it. 86mm pen at 4.3 is bad. Given that it can easily be killed by 3.3s and 3.0s.

With more weakspots than a Tiger I that lead to 1 hit K.O.s

With an extremely weak breech, and a very old model, which seemingly has bad gaps where welds are super weak, far weaker than they should be.

Mobility is worse, etc. I went though this in depth.