Thats for gaijin to determine, imo
We dont need anymore KV-1B/E vehicles
Regardless its my opinion so no reason to be so upset if gaijin thinks its underperforming then it will go down in BR.
On the topic of armor why does the T34 1941 get to be the same BR as the version with armor? (T34E) Or the same BR as the KV-1B/E so that armor idea falls flat.
I’m not upset. It’s a fact it has worse armor
And great we agree that it can be the same BR thanks to the T34E and T34 1941 being the same BR. If there was more decompression i might say that the Zis-5 could go down in br, as it stands now i dont see any reason to.
Do you own that tank?
Also you edited your comment after I responded. Gimme a few mins I’m in a game
Which comment did i edit? I dont think it was a recent one, so i have no idea which one you’re talking about.
Edit: Also own? I Own all tanks in the current mention aside from KV-1E, i have the B so i have no need for the E.
Let’s see your stats for them then
@Pheonix_RX01
Hmm guess this must be you?
Strange, you’ve only played the KV-1 1942, yet you declare you own them all except the KV-1E which would make you a liar
I can only thus assume you are biased. You don’t want the worse vehicle to go down in br, while a tank you clearly do quite well, you don’t want a spotlight on.
Nope i have the KV-1E still sitting in my inventory as a coupon. Had no reason to play it for the longest time though i also have a fe other vehicles sitting in my inventory that i haven’t claimed.
Regardless i have played the vehicles both my Zis-5 is spaded, i dont play either nearly as much as the 220, considering i grind for SL most of the time. Russia is my more popular nation for that. Again if we bring it stats youve only played Russia so you have no actual experience in the 1942 so how can i yrust your opinion?
Regardless considering you’re only in favor of getting another vehicle with yoir KV-1E it only proves the point that your entire opinion means nothing as you again have yet to play other vehicles, when you own the vehicle ill be willing to continue this pointless discussion for now you’ve only proven to me that they do belong at 4.7 considering you’re KD in both the E and the Zis-5.
Clearly you don’t understand, and like to lie.
Kv-1e is 4.0
Kv-1 zis-5 should be 4.3 since it has a better gun and slightly worse armor.
Do I need the KV-1 1942 to know how the armor preforms? No, I have the German one which is the same turret but with a different gun.
Nor did I ever say I played the 1942 did I?
Different turret armor, the KV-1C has the lighter turret yet has the 105mm armor. The KV-1A has the heavier turret with 90mm armor so you actually don’t know what you’re talking about. Which is fine, again when you actually know what you’re talking about and have played it then we can continue until then enjoy your day.
lol okay. So did you come here with an actual argument as to why a certain vehicle should be a certain br?
@McPlopish do you speak with anything other than your bias? If you took any actual note, many nations mainly got nerfed in my list. Italy actually prospered the most.
my bias?
Dude… looking at what you propose and then see you call me biased makes me giggle.
Thanks for the laugh bud
and yes, i do remember your silly defence of the Yak mega round.
You my dude, is pure bias.
so again, i’m happy you aren’t in charge for balance :)
You do understand it’s a working list subject to change?
You clearly have never played certain vehicles, or don’t care for balance and instead love broken ones.
Like I said feel free to make logical suggestions
Don’t make nonsensical worthless statements.
dude.
Almost everyone is laughing at your suggestions.
Just accept very few people share your point of view
Not really. The logical people agree with most, some things, not exactly. That’s to be expected.
But when you have a whole 6.3 - 7.7 bracket dominated by one nation (USA) of course you won’t like it if your most played nation gets nerfed
@Forum Moderators
Can the off topic comments be removed? Please and thank you.
Telling you that you’re wrong isn’t off topic.
Aside from attempting to nerf every nation you don’t play, you have also included a number of arbitrary “buffs” eg. +16% spall damage to the M300. Do you have some kind of source for this or are you just asking for it to be improved for gameplay purposes?
I think you need to make better arguments.
It’s off topic when it’s pure slander for no reason.
Better check my stat card, and the games I played Today.
It was USA
Spoiler, I have top tier USA, Germany, Russia, and Italy. Almost top for Sweden, and getting close with France / Japan
So should a 60mm spall as much as a 30mm cannon? No. That’s what is currently happening with M300, the spall is equal to or slightly less than the Rarden 30mm
Is this still going on? Good damn and here I thought this was over.
The guy who made this post doesn’t understand what the word Slander means “Slander is the act of making a false and harmful statement about someone, usually orally. It is a form of defamation.”
Disagreeing is not slander. So you’re good to go Ulan. O_Ob
Israel:
Merkava Mk.3 (all variants): armor buffed by ~100% (real-life values of ~420-470 mm KE protection UFP, ~500-550 mm KE protection turret front), moved down to 11.0 - or either, without a buff, moved down to 10.7/10.3.
Reason? Is much worse than any 11.3, 11.0 and even 10.7 MBT, with no armor at all, an avarage gun and trash mobility. Not even gun depression to snipe with.
And anyway, should also be getting it’s stabilized commander sight, a slight buff in targeting speed and reload from 6.0 → 5.0 seconds.
Zachlam Tager to 6.7 → 6.0 (a terrible vehicle whatsoever).
Sholef V1: Either super-buffed to real-life level (LRF, ~60 degrees per second targeting speed, engine power to 1200 hp, 6.67 reload for 60 rounds ready rack, twice the turret armor - should resist autocannon fire, weight reduced to 45 tons and transmition changed to the one of the Merkava Mk.3: +60 kph forward, -26.3 kph in reverse), or moved down in BR. If buffed, should move up 7.3 → 8.7. If not buffed, should moved down 7.3 → 6.7 for being useless and huge at the same time.
AMX-13 (France and Israel) 6.7 → 6.3 (not enough penatration to justify 75 mm solid shot).
Sho’t (and Centurion Mk.3) 7.7 → 7.3 (not much armor, terrible gun and an even worse mobility).
AML-90 7.7 → 7.0 (unstabilized 90 mm heat should’n face a T-55 in combat).
Giraf 8.3 → 8.0 (a terrible box that is nearly unplayable at 8.7 where it has a proper lineup with it, so I suggest moving it down to 8.0 where it is more competent AND has a lineup to go with).
TCM-20: name changed to Zachlad TCM-20, moved down in BR 4.3 → 3.3 (it’s essentially a worse Wirblewind) and moved to a new rank 3 in preparation to add low tier ranks to Israel.
Magach series: Magach 6C and Magach 6 Bet Gal 9.3 → 9.0 (straight away worse 7C and Gal Batash). Magach 6M moved 9.0 → 8.7 (decompression needed, but the 6M is a worse 6C after all). Magach 6C needs a model update, as the one we currently have in the game is wrong and fictional.
Merkava Mk.4 (all variants): armor buffed by ~90% (real-life values of ~630-670 mm KE protection UFP, ~700-800 mm KE protection turret front). A slight buff of targeting speed. Merkava Mk.4B 12.0 → 11.3, Merkava Mk.4 LIC 12.0 → 11.7.
Merkava Mk.1B, Merkava Mk.2B - armor buffed by ~85% (real-life values of up to 420 mm KE protection UFP, up to 450 mm KE protection turret front). Should receive a stabilized commander sight. Reload time 6.7 seconds → 5.0 seconds. Merkava Mk.2B should get a .50 cal gun-mounted machine gun.
Merkava series (all variants), perhaps also Magach 7C, Sabra I: Should receive LAHAT gun-launched laser-guided ATGMs. Further research is necessary to examine claims of Merkava series tanks having more gun depression and perhaps even elevation than what we have in the game.
Namer Tsrikhon, Namer RCWS-30: armor buffed by over 90% (real-life values of over 650 mm KE protection UFP). A slight buff of targeting speed. Maximal SPIKE missile capacity increased to 12 (Namer RCWS-30) and 12-16 (Namer Tsrikhon). 30 mm belts capacity increased to 4 (Namer RCWS-30) and 4-6 (Namer Tsrikhon). Transmition changed to the one of the Merkava Mk.3: +60 kph forward, -26.3 kph in reverse , or either to the one of the Merkava Mk.4: +64 kph forward, -64 kph in reverse. Further research is necessary to examine claims of even higher speed being reached by Namer AFVs. Further research is necessary to examine claims of the 30 mm autocannon on the Namer IFVs being able to fire in higher rates than 200 rpm. Both Namer RCWS-30 and Namer Tsrikhon should be redesignated as ‘Heavy IFV’, and light-tanks related detailed modules, such as FCS module and Electronic Equipment module, should be removed. Namer Tsrikhon should be moved to rank 7 and foldered under the Namer RCWS-30. Namer Tsrikhon should receive the ability to independently elevate and depress the dual SPIKE launcher.
M-51 (all variants): reload time changed 7.5 seconds → 6 seconds; top speed (forward) increased 38 kph → 40 kph.
M339 shell: penatration by kinetic energy should be increased ~28 mm at 10 m, flat surface → 172.5 mm at 10 m, flat surface.
But of course, what we need first and foremost is decompression.
you want to know why people are laughing at you?
You have propose 8 vehicles that should be lowered in the USSR tech tree.
And 9 in the rest of the nations combined (and one or more are because it’s a copy/paste vehicle from the USSR tech tree)
You my friend, don’t want a fair fight, you want to be able to steamroll other nations.
and im done talking with you, it’s about as pointless as shouting at the wind.
have a nice day.
