Someone underestimates the P-38 :)
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Nah, backstage just massively overestimates a mid-subpar plane.
It’s definitely not subpar…
They are overestimating it, it’s definitely not the biggest threat at it’s respective BRs
It’s of course not the best prop either but if played well its a threat to everyone.
It uses a non-meta strategy, and it’s not even particularly good at it. If a plane is only good when used by the best Warthunder players, then it just isn’t a good plane.
you do realise if everyone played the “meta” it’d just be Yak 3s vs Yak 3s.
The P-38 is pretty good at BnZ and turns suprisingly well, alongside not compressing too much at high speed.
It has an insane climb rate, can tank a few hits and has great guns. What’s not to like about it.
That is entirely false. It has terrible compression at high speed, its climb rate is average at best, and a single sneeze from even a .50cal or .303 will desintigrate it.
Fw 190D-9 handles compression far better, has better survivability (for numerous reasons) and has a far better climb rate.
I’ve flown the P-38L from the chinest TT recently, its climb rate is great, it’s compression really does not feel that bad, but thats my opinion on it.
And the damage model is suprisingly resistant to .50 caliber and some 20mms, of course it will die eventually.
I had a horrible time in the 190D-9, it doesn’t turn going fast or slow, it’s climb rate is exceptional but I couldn’t really find a way to utilise it. Personally, I’d fly the P-38L instead any day
Flat turning is the only thing Fw 190s do bad, and even then you can still take advantage of verticality to win in dogfights.
From my experience (both playing and fighting) the P-38s have a very strong tendency to lose the elevator after a single hit, catch fire and lose traction of control surfaces instantly, or just got pilot sniped. Same goes for F-82E minus the pilot sniping. Twin boom designs just tend to be very fragile due to Warthunder’s poor damage simulation.
Okay this is a complete and utter skill issue.
If we take a lot at some P-38s, the P-38E is really the only bad P-38 I can think of. However the P-38G is a pretty good 3.7br prop as it gets a good climb rate, good guns, high dive speed and decent turn performance.
The P-38J is pretty much a more cracked P-38G as it gets an even better climb performance, has good maneuverability and turn with the high dive speed, and the P-38L is basically the P-38J with much better roll rate, and airbrakes which makes it one of the best P-38s in the game. And the P-38K has the climb rate of a Bf109 K4, while having better manuverability, better guns, and better energy retention than the Bf109 K4 at a lower BR.
The fact you call the P-38s bad highlights that either you have little to no experience with the P-38s, or that you have no idea how to even utilize them.
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i have posistives in all of them and id consider my self a sub par player there good they just need a certain play style hes says it has better Fire power when this is blatantly wrong IRL yes it does but ingame no 4 50cals and 1 20 mm with real shatter does far more damage
Nope.
Means the only times I’ve ever died to a P-38, aside from in bombers or after being critically damaged, is in headons.
The only one that’s good is the P-38E, however pretty much every rank 1-2 vehicle in the big three nations is either good or OP due to new players.
Tbh the only reason I call the P-38E bad, is mostly because that P-38 is the only P-38 I have very little experience with compared to the P-38G, J, L and K.
Though yeah in terms of weaponry, Gaijin has made a lot of weapons such as the 50cals more powerful in game than they are in-real life. At least the 50cals aren’t currently at 2018 levels where you could have 3 50cal bullets from a M3 machine gun saw off a wing from a Mig 15.
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Best joke ever
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it was a very long time ago back when it climbed it irl climbrate against things like meteors
You only need a ruSSian IP. Thats the trick.
Bye Forum, to much census from the east…
Lol, the fact that Germany mains are so brain rotted that they think Me 163 was balanced b4 the nerfs is wild.
It naval always have been suffering and it pretty much all nations.
at that BR? no
the thing is, even the books about the komet me163 state that its max fuel capacity was enough for 7 minutes
it was fine back then for me, you took off went up to around 5000-6000m and then put the throttle back to 50% or less to save fuel and you still had plenty left for the match
you faced La200s and sabres etc which did outclimb you but since most people dont like to climb you were most of the time above them
it was fun flying it and since most people used to buy the premium F86-35 or the mig15bish or even the GAF meteor they were free kills.
but now with the changes to the fuel and the br´s
youre with 2 minutes left and you barely reached 6000 meters, back then you used to run out of ammo first and now you run out of fuel with still 100+ rounds left
For ground its mostly just the people who dont know how to play the german vehicles
i mainly play 7.3 due to the tiger 2 105, panther 2 and a few other tanks being at 7.0 but since theres only a few at 7.0 having a few 7.3 vehicles wont hurt
German armor is always being overestimated like the tiger 1 or tiger 2 IF i had to point a finger at someone it would probably be all the docus/movies etc. since they always talk so high and mighty about the german tanks, the famous quote ,One of our Tiger tanks is worth four of their Shermans, but the Americans always bring five." is completly irrelevant in war thunder since it takes 1 shell to the cupola to send you back to the hangar (like most people do after 1 spawn and death)
I’ve been playing me163 since 2013, and there was no single time it was overpowered after the introduction of BR system.