these brs are all about who has the better prop and 75% of the time the enemy will have a better prop G2 is the only one who doesnt suffer as much as other 109s cause its good FM many super props out do german 109s at everything at high tier like Mk24 P51H5 for example or yak3u will all very easily out climb and speed and even turn a 109K4
P-38 is not good by any measure. Fw-190 out climbs most planes with the only real exception being the Spitfire.
If we exclude premiums, I’d say Germany is Better than Britain just on account of how many bombs can be carried, and Mk 103s.
As for America, I’d take one bomb and two Mk 103s over two or three bombs any day.
holy skill issue p38 not good ? are you okay ? best BNZ fighter for there brs and turn really well one of the first planes to break 450mph ? like what? like this is just pure rage bait interceptor spawn too there crazy good
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No way you actually suffer when fighting P-38 of all planes . . .
ive played them they are very good compared to most german props they will dog walk you with a alt advantage your only chance is if your in a 109 and they turn fight you but they can just BNZ your nuts off and you will just be a duck
Is this a joke??
Yeah problem with that is most German players that use the 109 don’t understand that they need to climb to 3000-4000m and not stay low and try dogfighting
How can anyone die to a BnZ P-38 without being completely blind? Even the Fw 190 can pull hard enough to dodge a P-38.
Fw 190D-9 performs BnZ far better, having better roll, better firepower, better climb rate, and being faster in general.
Someone underestimates the P-38 :)
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Nah, backstage just massively overestimates a mid-subpar plane.
It’s definitely not subpar…
They are overestimating it, it’s definitely not the biggest threat at it’s respective BRs
It’s of course not the best prop either but if played well its a threat to everyone.
It uses a non-meta strategy, and it’s not even particularly good at it. If a plane is only good when used by the best Warthunder players, then it just isn’t a good plane.
you do realise if everyone played the “meta” it’d just be Yak 3s vs Yak 3s.
The P-38 is pretty good at BnZ and turns suprisingly well, alongside not compressing too much at high speed.
It has an insane climb rate, can tank a few hits and has great guns. What’s not to like about it.
That is entirely false. It has terrible compression at high speed, its climb rate is average at best, and a single sneeze from even a .50cal or .303 will desintigrate it.
Fw 190D-9 handles compression far better, has better survivability (for numerous reasons) and has a far better climb rate.
I’ve flown the P-38L from the chinest TT recently, its climb rate is great, it’s compression really does not feel that bad, but thats my opinion on it.
And the damage model is suprisingly resistant to .50 caliber and some 20mms, of course it will die eventually.
I had a horrible time in the 190D-9, it doesn’t turn going fast or slow, it’s climb rate is exceptional but I couldn’t really find a way to utilise it. Personally, I’d fly the P-38L instead any day
Flat turning is the only thing Fw 190s do bad, and even then you can still take advantage of verticality to win in dogfights.
From my experience (both playing and fighting) the P-38s have a very strong tendency to lose the elevator after a single hit, catch fire and lose traction of control surfaces instantly, or just got pilot sniped. Same goes for F-82E minus the pilot sniping. Twin boom designs just tend to be very fragile due to Warthunder’s poor damage simulation.
Okay this is a complete and utter skill issue.
If we take a lot at some P-38s, the P-38E is really the only bad P-38 I can think of. However the P-38G is a pretty good 3.7br prop as it gets a good climb rate, good guns, high dive speed and decent turn performance.
The P-38J is pretty much a more cracked P-38G as it gets an even better climb performance, has good maneuverability and turn with the high dive speed, and the P-38L is basically the P-38J with much better roll rate, and airbrakes which makes it one of the best P-38s in the game. And the P-38K has the climb rate of a Bf109 K4, while having better manuverability, better guns, and better energy retention than the Bf109 K4 at a lower BR.
The fact you call the P-38s bad highlights that either you have little to no experience with the P-38s, or that you have no idea how to even utilize them.
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i have posistives in all of them and id consider my self a sub par player there good they just need a certain play style hes says it has better Fire power when this is blatantly wrong IRL yes it does but ingame no 4 50cals and 1 20 mm with real shatter does far more damage
Nope.
Means the only times I’ve ever died to a P-38, aside from in bombers or after being critically damaged, is in headons.
The only one that’s good is the P-38E, however pretty much every rank 1-2 vehicle in the big three nations is either good or OP due to new players.
Tbh the only reason I call the P-38E bad, is mostly because that P-38 is the only P-38 I have very little experience with compared to the P-38G, J, L and K.
Though yeah in terms of weaponry, Gaijin has made a lot of weapons such as the 50cals more powerful in game than they are in-real life. At least the 50cals aren’t currently at 2018 levels where you could have 3 50cal bullets from a M3 machine gun saw off a wing from a Mig 15.
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