FW 190s are mid cant reallly do much 109s can somewhat do something but the guns just let you down there energy fighters that cant energy fight cause a spit will always be higher and your wunder waffen are compressed to hell cause american mains complained same with russian mains the air tree just stinks honestly only decent vehicles
are
BF109E models
TA152H1
BF109K4
BF109G14
BF109C1
thats about all your good fighters Bf110s are good for bomber hunting and Me410s and thats it
Me262 C2B is nice and He162 to and the Me262C1A
The Fw 190D-9 and Bf 109G-2 are both amazing planes. Not to mention, Germany has some of the best CAS options out of any nation.
Idk much abt the Ho 229, but the Me 163 used to be straight up overpowered.
Now it becomes a little bit ridiculous…
Where is your experience from?
The Me 163 has only 4min of fuel, and you need 3min ish to climb at 5000m.
You can’t chase any plane anymore nor you have the guns/ammo to kill an enemy with one burst because of the nerf of the minengeschoss.
The BR change all sabres and Migs went down in BR make it even worse.
You see them barely fly, and if, the pilots aren’t the best, because all good players quit with this plane.
I never said the german planes aren’t good or the techtree is bad, but they aren’t beginner friendly. Your team don’t perform anymore, because most of the players nowadays think climbing is unnecessary, hammering the keyboard is enough or headon is the best solution. And even in an amazing plane you can’t play every battle 1vsX with success.
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Me163 was OP years ago when it had its historically accurate climbrate then they nerfed it and added BI at a lower br and reduced its fuel to half now its basically unplayble
BF109G2 is the only decent Bf109 g model yet it gets beat easily by spits and yaks very easily at same br and guns are weak as hell
FW190D9 is mid its not crazy for 5.0 there planes that climb faster and gofaster than you your a mediorcre interceptor its sad plane dont turn well dont really maintain energy that well your guns are okay there kinda buns cause they dont have real shatter
there cas while good in GRB is completely outclassed by other props at same br its mostly carried by 50 mm 262 and arados not to mention cas doesnt matter in air RB
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That’s not cause Germany is bad, it’s cuz Spits and Yaks are absurdly undertiered.
It’s basically F4U-4B but it’s 0.7 lower in exchange for worse turning. It’s one of the fastest planes at its BR.
The only nation with better prop CAS is USSR.
it may be fast but you can always be faster a plane can just dive on you and catch you the d9 is not good its mid compared to any other interceptor like P38 for example which is better in every way german air is pretty bad it takes a lot of skill to do good
easily america all there planes can carry large bombs and many rockets compared to a single 250kg-500kg on most fighters would say britain too purely cause there wyvern and there fighters carry some nice bombs too
these brs are all about who has the better prop and 75% of the time the enemy will have a better prop G2 is the only one who doesnt suffer as much as other 109s cause its good FM many super props out do german 109s at everything at high tier like Mk24 P51H5 for example or yak3u will all very easily out climb and speed and even turn a 109K4
P-38 is not good by any measure. Fw-190 out climbs most planes with the only real exception being the Spitfire.
If we exclude premiums, I’d say Germany is Better than Britain just on account of how many bombs can be carried, and Mk 103s.
As for America, I’d take one bomb and two Mk 103s over two or three bombs any day.
holy skill issue p38 not good ? are you okay ? best BNZ fighter for there brs and turn really well one of the first planes to break 450mph ? like what? like this is just pure rage bait interceptor spawn too there crazy good
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No way you actually suffer when fighting P-38 of all planes . . .
ive played them they are very good compared to most german props they will dog walk you with a alt advantage your only chance is if your in a 109 and they turn fight you but they can just BNZ your nuts off and you will just be a duck
Is this a joke??
Yeah problem with that is most German players that use the 109 don’t understand that they need to climb to 3000-4000m and not stay low and try dogfighting
How can anyone die to a BnZ P-38 without being completely blind? Even the Fw 190 can pull hard enough to dodge a P-38.
Fw 190D-9 performs BnZ far better, having better roll, better firepower, better climb rate, and being faster in general.
Someone underestimates the P-38 :)
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Nah, backstage just massively overestimates a mid-subpar plane.
It’s definitely not subpar…
They are overestimating it, it’s definitely not the biggest threat at it’s respective BRs
It’s of course not the best prop either but if played well its a threat to everyone.
It uses a non-meta strategy, and it’s not even particularly good at it. If a plane is only good when used by the best Warthunder players, then it just isn’t a good plane.
you do realise if everyone played the “meta” it’d just be Yak 3s vs Yak 3s.
The P-38 is pretty good at BnZ and turns suprisingly well, alongside not compressing too much at high speed.
It has an insane climb rate, can tank a few hits and has great guns. What’s not to like about it.