exact same engine and transmission as what? what are you saying? Oh really?
They wanted to represent Argentina and the best place was Germany. That’s all. No colonialist approaches, only trading partners.
Otherwise, they would have added the TH-301 instead of the TAM.
If you have no idea what you’re saying, better be quiet
P/d: Before you speak, go check the engines and transmissions. It’s nothing personal, I’m just sick of seeing idiots feeding their egos by saying crap.
Because its a trash excuse to deny a vehicle german players have asked for and needed for a long time, and leads to germany getting shafted out of future vehicles as well?
At this point, I think Argentina has a lot to offer to the German TT, as sub TT. However, the only thing I read every day is German players saying that Argentina has nothing to help the German TT.
Hopefully Argentina can have its own TT combined with Brazil, and not have to beg for a representation space. I feel very sorry for Hungary, they are not a more represented nation in the game, but rather they are the bitch in dispute between Germans and Italians.
The gaijin thing on the other hand is an insult.
It puts PUMA at 10.0 and without a spike and does not give Germany the lynx. At least, they should spike the PUMA.
and now the 2a6 is getting foldered (less people will go for it and focus on the PSO)
Which makes no sense the pso is a version of the 2a5 and not a new topdog for Germany. It should be foldered with the 2a5 not the 2a6
yet all tested and considered by Italy, and the VRCC is an export Centauro for a nation that is not ingame even in the form of a sub tree
you imply the OTOMATIC and SIDAM mistral are true rank 7s, lets take a look at the SPAA and discount them since germany has better and true rank 7s, same amount of MBTs, including the 2PL since it is a good tank and should not be excluded, along with the PSO that is coming now, and the Arietes have since being added have had their armour incorrectly modeled to an unrealistic degree, as in the weight and protection do not add up, the Rad 90 and TAM are also going to rank 7 for germany, the 2K is, ozelot and Gepard (tho both a bit of a joke ngl, stingers are 50% G pull they should have) and the TOW Wiesel, according to gaijin germany has more now
Shine like a shit. Tech tree that “didn’t have anything vehicle” must be upgraded by german made vehicles. Sounds good. I will wait for centauro in USSR tech tree and Ariette in Germany XD.
German might not need it if Puma can use spike or add new Puma with spike (but they don’t)
or if the Puma actualy had a working correct model
If they would ad a Puma S1 right now and fix the model of then both pumas I would be fin with Germany not receiving lynx in this patch but it has to come to Germany sooner or later
Correct. Its not even very usefull, since it only has two ordnance points for AAMs and Mavericks. Two missiles are just not sufficient. It locks down at too low speeds for my taste and has less maneuverabily than a fighter class craft should have. So its not filling a gap imho, It IS a gap^^
It also has no POI setting, you can can’t set up POI map markers to to direct your target pod’s view. You always need to manually set up the camera view of the pod which is meh. Mavericks are hard to use this way.
And yee…its a british craft. So it should go there. I just don’t understand Gajin policy of mixing up the tech trees. Vehicles should only go to countries which operated it and if thats no aviable, to the developer country.
I’m a German main. As I’ve said multiple times in this thread, Italy should definitely have it in its tree. And since it direly needs new content, it needs priority as well.
But this isn’t a zero sum game. The machine can easily be in both trees eventually, which is standard practice anyway. Just look at the 2S1. Is it any lesser an addition to the Italo-Hungarian tech tree because the Soviets are simultaneously getting it too?
… What?
People play what they want. Italy has a quantity problem, not an identity problem, because its vehicles that are not copypaste are usually actually quite interesting and unique. Pairing it with Hungary remedies the lack of content, so that it’s less daunting for a new Italian player to build viable lineups. That’s why it’s in. Do you really believe Italy would be a worthless tech tree to play if not for this one vehicle being completely exclusive to them? A vehicle that would be alongside the Freccia, I might add?
You really think that it’s such a bad tree that not only do we need to incentivise, we need to force players to grind it?
That sounds a little… I don’t even have a word for that tbh.
Also, there are plenty of unique Italian and Hungarian vehicles yet to be added, if there really is a concern about uniqueness. The fact that Hungary is getting the normal T-72 instead of its own variant, suggests that it’s not actually at the forefront of Gaijin’s mind…
Just swap “Germany” for “Soviet tree” and “KF41” for “T-72” or “2S1” or “BTR-80” and you have your answer. I’d say that doesn’t spell the death of the Italian tree just because you can play these machines with Russia with a better lineup…
Even then germany used 2s1 as well and should be placed in german tech tree, but we only care about KF41 because it is german developed
Of course, there is a “need” argument. Germany doesn’t need the 2S1, so there’s no downside to limiting how many trees get it.
But…
Russia doesn’t need the 2S1 either. God knows their tree is also stacked (and a non-trivial portion of it is, ironically, made up of vehicles that were trialled and never saw service). So why not make the 2S1 unique to Hungary too?
The arbitrariness of the ad-hoc decision is what stings here tbh.
why are you people so adamant about adding a vehicle that wasnt even developed by said nation to their tree and lock the other nations that developed and or used the vehicle out of it. Italy doesn’t get worse just because the 2s1 is also in the soviet tree. Neither does their lineup suddenly get worse just because the lynx isnt exclusive to them
You might be replying to the wrong user there, chap :D
The REASON Germany should get the KF41 is because they NEED the KF41 as their top tier lineup is anemic
Tell me you main Germany without telling me. Honestly have a look at nations like Japan, Italy and Britain and tell me Germany is performing worse than them then I may consider the KF41 a option for Germany but otherwise Germany doesn’t need it AT ALL.
Germany has been Meta for years and you can’t disagree, they already got the best Aircraft, one of the best Tanks and a extremely competitive Ship (MiG-29, Leopard 2A6 and Prinz Eugen).
Gaijin could have avoided this whole mess by adding the kf41 to both Germany and Hungary or maybe they could have said They will add the kf41 to Germany in the next patch or so. But instead they gave us the BS “but Germany doesn’t use it so no” answer rightfully pissing off germain mains like me who have been asking for it for years. And the “Germany doesn’t use it” argument has no grounds here at all because for all we know Germany could be planning to build some for themselves as it was said that they are not happy with the PUMA and not to mention the kf41 is a completely unique German design which makes 0 sense that it won’t come to Germany. And for those saying “but was built in Hungary so” that argument has no grounds either 1st off the first batch of kf41’s were built in Germany 2nd the factory in Hungary was literally just built 3rd the factory is owned by rheinmetall so Hungary aren’t even using Hungarian factories to build it 4th as many in this thread have said myself included there are lots of export vehicles in game that their host tech tree never used so Germany not getting the kf41 is 100% bs double standards by gaijin and nothing more.