Man what the hell are these troll’s talking about none of us are saying Hungary shouldn’t get the kf41 we are only saying that by rights of being it’s creators Germany should get a kf41 as well. And on top of that they keep repeating “Germany doesn’t use it so no” as if that’s any kind of logical argument despite that tanks like the fucking 2s38 exist in game and all the other export tanks currently in game that the host tech tree never used.
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No no it doesn’t people will still play Italy for this vehicle and all we are asking is for Germany to get one even if it’s in the next patch which will give Italy plenty of time in the spot light.
Just imagine if both Italy and Germany got the KF41, what’s the point on getting the Italian one? Germany is a better Tech Tree in literally ALL sectors so there wouldn’t be a purpose for getting it in Italy.
The reason it’s only going to Italy is to attract players to the nation and especially if they want to play the new KF41 vehicle.
Just about nobody is going to go play Italy for the KF41, thats such a dumbass argument its unbelievable you brought it up.
Hungarians will likely gravitate towards italy due to national pride, not because of the KF41.
Super hardcore KF41 fans MIGHT grind italy for the KF41, but its not like its some super popular iconic ifv, its pretty basic as far as modern ifvs go, and its pretty freaking ugly too. Its a pretty hard sell to grind an entire nation you literally dont give a shit about for an IFV you might like. I wont even bother grinding britain for the skink and that was a vehicle id be wating on for like 11 years ffs, and its not even at top tier!
German players want a KF41 because its a German designed, German made vehicle, and because gaijin cant be trusted to model the Puma properly in any reasonable amount of time and the german rank 7 lineup is bordering on trash at this point and deperately needs something like the KF41
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PUMA exists, and is actually in-service with the German military.
There are non-service prototypes that can be added as well.
At the very least they should give Germany the kf31 which is literally the same thing but smaller and slightly slower but no the snail just wants top tier Germany to be so unplayable that nobody touches it.
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LINEUP YOU ABSOLUTE PILLOCK
TF do you think germans are asking the KF41 for? its dashing good cardboard box looks? are you mental? We want a KF41 because our lineup is in desperate need of support vehicles and now theres one literally being dangled infront of us which we cant have even tho we should!
Nobody wouldve batted an eyelash if the KF41 was added to germany last patch alongside the Freccia being added to italy, but now that germany DIDNT get it, german players are feeling cheated out of a vehicle they NEED and everyone else is just happy to see Germany struggleing, like that wasnt happening for 2-3 years now
As a German main I see no reason to add the KF41 to the German tech tree.
Sure, the vehicle was developed by a German company, but the German military isn’t using it.
Instead they should finally give us the fully equipped PUMA.
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Rights it’s not like German players have been asking for the kf41 for literal years meanwhile Italian players didn’t give 2 shits about the kf41 until the snail threw it in their faces and now they feel entitled to be the only ones to have it.
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I dont even think its Italian players that wanna keep it for themselves, I think the only ppl arguing against germany getting it are ppl that genuinly hate geramny, as there are a LOT of those ppl in this community, and popular CC’s like spookston encourage it
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And this is were we go back to the Hunter F.58 and Class 3 (P) argument, and just because a vehicle is made by [insert nation] doesn’t mean it has to go to that specific nation. Have a look at the Hunter F.58 which I’ve mentioned a lot already, it’s a British design in the German Tech Tree.
And using your logic the F-4F should go to the Americans since at its core it’s a American F-4 Phantom.
No you absolute mouth breather. How many times does this have to be repeated:
Justification for Germanys ABILITY to receive the KF41 is that its german designed and german built, that gives germany’s TT a legitimate base for getting the vehicle.
The REASON Germany should get the KF41 is because they NEED the KF41 as their top tier lineup is anemic, with only isreal having less rank 7 vehicles than them (a nation thats only been ingame for like 1 year), and having no real viable IFV to support the lineup, forcing you to run multiple MBT’s which increases spawn cost of your lineup (via spawning multiple vehicles of the same type) all while reducing gameplay variety and the lineups ability to adapt.
Arguably speaking, italy didnt need the KF41. At all. Everything it does is already done by other italian vehicles already in-game.
Off nation vehicles with some kind of tie are usually added to nations based on NEED (think Canadian ADATS in british tree despite the chassis being american and the turret being swiss. Britain NEEDED the ADATS cuz the stormer wasnt cutting it and gaijin refused to buff/fix it.
The F-4F going to america is idiotic. Not only is it a german vehicle (a main TT, not a subtree line), America ALREADY HAS better F-4’s in-game.
As for the swiss hunter, i havent ever met a german player that honestly gives a shit about it, and the class 3P was a german vehicle designed for an south african competion it never won so bringing that up is about as saying Canada should be added as a nation and get the Rafale, Eurofighter, Gripen, F/A-18E/F super hornet and F-35, because they had a competition and those jets were involved.
If you still cant figure it out after this, you’re genuinely a lost cause, and oxygen is better spent on rocks than you.
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Designed by Germans according to Argentine specifications. The tank was manufactured in Argentina, by Argentines and with money from the Argentines.
¿Alemania no consigue Lynx porque el ejército alemán no lo usa?
¿Qué carajo? Pensé que era el árbol tecnológico alemán (con un Kurassier y un Hunter) y no el árbol Bundeswehr (con un Kurassier y un Hunter).
No me malinterpretes, no quiero el Lynx, perdí la voluntad jugando al PUMA roto e inútil en 10.0. Increíble ver como el PUMA empezó siendo 8.3 y mira como fue creciendo!!! el 9040 sueco del mismo BR con un cañón de 40 mm con casi 200 bolígrafos… Es simplemente ridículo. AL MENOS ESPERABA UN 2A7 y no otro MBT con TVD que daña mi visión. Después de dos juegos tengo que usar lubricante para los ojos por lo horribles que son.
Esto ya es un circo…
Mientras tanto Japón tiene un F-16 que no existe y Suecia tiene vehículos que no son de tecnología sueca y nunca tuvieron en su ejército.
Los británicos reciben tecnología soviética con bandera india y Alemania no puede recibir tecnología francesa con bandera argentina (Sí, los vehículos argentinos están en el TT alemán desde el 31 de agosto de 2018, hace exactamente 5 años, o sea la mitad de vida de los WT).
En resumen, WT continúa reflexionando sobre el enfoque colonialista, nacionalista e imperialista para agregar vehículos… Parecemos como Herder y sus amigos aquí, dos siglos después, discutiendo el concepto de Nación cuando se trata de políticas de implementación de vehículos. Gaijin debe tener claros sus planes y mantener informada a la comunidad sobre sus planes en general. No importa si esos planes cambian más adelante, los planes están hechos para cambiarse, pero aquí necesitamos previsibilidad y no argumentos esquivos y caprichosos para darle forma al juego.
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Now to put the thread back on topic they should have added the KF41 to Germany before anyone else got one as it was designed by Germany built by Germany with German parts and players like myself have been waiting for Germany to get it for years especially now since top tier Germany is in bad need of a capable top tier IFV. Only to be bitch slapped by the snail and have the kf41 added to Hungary as a sub tech tree for Italy despite that it was only German mains asking for the kf41 and Italian mains don’t want Hungary as a sub tech tree heck many have said Hungary was a terrible choice for Italy’s sub tech tree.
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This. The PUMA currently in live is better than the current iteration of KF41 as well.
A Spike PUMA would be even better.
Another good reason KF41 isn’t needed in Germany.
PUMA already exists, and a Spike PUMA can come as well.
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What is up with this fight dude, germany is prob getting one anyways just modified because there Will be so much backlash from the German players they Will either way have to add it it’s just that arguing that the lynx shouldn’t go to germany cuz it wasnt in service with the German army, it’s dumb to anybody with common sense i’m not gonna discuss this if You Say this should to to germany aswell cool, You have Braincells to think your own opinions and please do not throw trash to a part of the community just cuz they play other nations, if You are gonna discuss this use a neutral position not one biased towards either germany or italy, sounds good?
El Tam está hecho a partir del chasis o casco como quieras llamarlo de el marder alemán con exactamente el mismo motor y transmisión esa fue la razón por la cual fue añadido a Alemania, lo cual si es una razón algo extraña pero entendible
But well You don’t see the lynx in the German tech tree Even tho germany did make the Tam for Argentina wich it’s absolutely dumb, they pretty much have the same logic
The difference between the TAM and the KF41 is that there is (now) a Hungarian subtree while there probably won’t ever be a Argentinian one. Why is everyone glossing over that?