German Helicopter Tech Tree - Current and Future Discussion Thread

What’s the difference between the UHT and the KHT? I thought it was just a name change?

You are correct, he included the correct name into his tree.
The real uht lacks some armor and would be without pars 3 i thunk

i mainly intended the UHT to be the version up to 2013 and any upgrades that took place after '13 to be made into a new vehicle called the KHT (i think the extra pars launcher was made after '13?)

Asgard was started in 2011 and ended 2014 iirc

Wouldn’t it be better to have it as a researchable module? I don’t really wanna grind a top-tier heli just to basically pull a BMP 1p

The kht is the one we have in game.

He wants to add an earlier version with less ordinance to use at lower brs

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like what xShini said, i want the HOT-3 at a lower BR with the thermals and the mast mounted sight and the rockets + computer so we can actually have a viable chopper at around 10.0-11.0

also i heard the tiger is getting its hmd?

It has since yesterday on the Dev

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And cant use it with anything

Exactly xD

Purchasing American-made AH-64E Apache or AH-1Z viper rather developing Utility helis like Ec365 maybe a good idea for the Bundswehr facing possible crisis in the future, a new round conflict between NATO and Russian so that we could have more choices in WT.

how much did the american government pay you?

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There’s no need for Mi 24D and other useless choppers they just have to add another Tiger ec 665 chopper with chin mounted 30mm cannon along with same PARs 3 Missiles with a little upgrade in pars 3 quantity up to 12 or 16.
If new choppers they want to add than i would love Apache series in German tree. If its KA 52 than it would be awesome.
+ they have to do little upgrade for attack choppers as strong ircm or tracking defence against anti air so they really can give a close ground support and can survive for some time.

Would love to see SOMETHING fill the gap between 9.3-11.7.
Looking through the Swedish tree, there really isn’t anything they could add.
The NH90, we probably won’t have details around their new BLOCK 1 and 2 upgrades for awhile. (as of now they would be useless with no weapons)
In-Use German helicopters focus on Naval, but since there’s 0 use case for that, it wouldn’t make sense.
I guess you could implement a craft, like the Sea King, and give it the Sea Skuas, but idk if that would work.

I personally think the Tiger ARH does not fit in the German premium line.
The ARH specifically is a French export variant, not German. It’s basically just a HAC that France sold to the Australian.

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Godvana, I read your post about the Outer Pylon not having the PARS3 launcher, and it seems to have been responded to as Already Reported to the Devs.
That was February 25, 2023.
Over 1.5 years have gone by, have you gotten any sort of update?
I’m not sure what could be the issue with adding it, IF all the sources were correct.

The 64E seems like a good heli, but also seems to come with the annoying caveat of needing to purchase the JAGM to arm it, which afaik is basicly just a helfire with a better seeker, and barely has the ability to outrange modern MANPADs and the likes, never mind higher performance SHORADs most adversary nations of the west actually field. If recent experiences have been anything to speak of with the ability of helis, the JAGM isnt gonna cut it in a peer on peer conflict. In any other type of conflict, the 64E is largely overkill.

All hail the american military industrial complex, with all strings attached and horrifically anti-competitive business practices due to massive government protectionism…

That being said, the 64E is about the best thing germany could possibly get for its heli tree, and itd need a subtree that isnt as trash as switzerland to do it, so thats unlikely to ever happen.

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A mix of “balance considerations” (even though the UHT lost its only niche when the Spikes were added, and is back to being on the lower end of top tier heli performance) and just gaijins straight hating germany from the looks of it…

Not like the PARS 3 are the only thing missing from the outer pylons, heres a pic of the 19x Hydra 70 rocket pods on the outer station, something gaijin pretends is also impossible…


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Definitely feeling that. If Germany TRULY doesn’t have something that can fill that gap, or be the successor to the UHT, might we see another JPN F16 case?

I’m not sure they hate them, but as of now, for balance, the 12 PARS3 would make it decent considering the other helis at this BR can carry upwards of 16.
Maybe they don’t have enough data for it? How many people actually have AND use the UHT?

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H145M… one day. . One year