German Helicopter Tech Tree - Current and Future Discussion Thread

The fact that any NATO country uses the Mighty Mouse/Hydra 70/SNEB when there is the vastly superior CRV-7 is beyond me tbh

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The version we have in game is already to ASGARD standard. You can tell by the extra cockpit armour.

EDIT: Unless you mean add an early version

i meant add it with the upgrades such as extra PARS and rocket pods and the 20 (or was it 30?)mm gunpod.
also HMD plz

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So I would like to have functioning PARS first.
So the missing 6kg of explosives, the missing control modes (Saclos and Topdown FnF) and a functioning connection.

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I thought they increased the payload (or at least the effects thereof) in the dev server?

Nope, only of missiles that are of a calibre 170 mm and above. PARS 3 is 159 mm.

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And honestly. It’s a complete impudence.

I recently sunk 8 PARS into a tank from different angles. In two volleys of 4 rockets each.

Of course it wasn’t destroyed.

And the last Pantsir ate 4 rockets, lost the driver (great) and then shot me down in reverse. Of course through 2 trees.

I really have a hard time believing that Gaijin doesn’t hate Germany.

It distributes all the beautiful toys to Germany, only to neuter them with bugs and strange nerfs.

BREAKING NEWS:

The EC-665 Tigers now have also HMD

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That’s pretty cool. Playing with VR glasses is more fun. But that doesn’t make it more effective in the GRB :-).

Dont forget the IRIS-T it desperately needs.

Tigers never used IRIS-T… there was some plans for the use of LFK NG but that never left prototype phase.

Then what warrants the UHT at its current BR? Every other nation has far better helis at the same BR with even better capabilities and self defence. If we take a look at the 2S38 which is still in testing, the prototype phase is enough to give it LFK NG or Iris-T as one is derived from the other. Why is it always nitpicking when it comes to Germany if it had something or not but every other nation gets a pass on that? Why is the UHT the only free kill in the game?

U might be misunderstanding sth wrong here.
The UHT isnt bad. On the contrary it is realy strong and deserves 11.7
The problem is its very depending on the map.
The pars 3 easily lose lock, so it does best on open map types like deserts. Artica plains.
Its does very bad in cities and forests.
If you use it right the UHT is a monster.
And propably better then the Apache in those cases.
You propably arenr using it right in that case

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Even though I just “argued” with Shini about the UHT and how to deal with it.

He is absolutely right.

Firstly, IRIS T currently has no place in the game. The missile’s capabilities are absurd and the ATAS can handle it against jets.
I’ve certainly shot down more jets with the ATAS than these have shot down me.

Secondly, he described the PARS well. In 8 out of 10 maps the Tiger is almost useless. I still play it there again and again with moderate success.

The second mode of PARS would be needed here. Namely the SACLOS mode, which the PARS also has.
That could certainly be implemented.

It can be good on open maps if you’re lucky with the damage the PARS deals. Here the two counters come into play again. Even open maps have little space to hide from jets and pantsirs.

On some open maps, a well-placed Pantsir shoots at the helipads…

The fact is: If the Tiger does not encounter Pantsirs, VT-1 or similar SAMS, it is too strong. Roland’s are not enough.

So he has to stay at 11.7. 11.3 would still be possible, but this would often mean you’re fully uptiered due to the many 10.3 lineups.

Overall, my KD is positive and I usually get the SP in because I also use it to shoot down other helicopters and jets.
So he is not useless.
The PARS, on the other hand, are frustrating. They are a game of chance that you have no control over.

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What do you guys think?

Refined, Updated Germany Helicopters Tech Tree

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yeah i considered those BRs but keeping in mind the new spikes on the KF-41 and the other helicopters, this felt like the best BR for the two, ill correct the name tho lol
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the BRs need to be switched around lol, ill do that 😅

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