Gepard and PGZ09 at 8.3?

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Buddy them being able to move is no problem for cas.
You can easily spot them and kill them.
There is sth called adjusting for movement.
You are only saying more and more its a skill issue at your point.
Literaly at any br CAS aircraft dominate and are one of the biggest factors to who decides a match. Specialy cause spaas arent as braindead as u believe it is.

Why u think huge part of the communit, asks for a gsmemode without planes?

You are simply wrong and arent able to do basic function of aircraft

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No it just seems like you have no idea what you’re talking about. SPAA dominates air at 8.3. few planes have ballistic computers or countermeasures. as long as you’re not from a country that gaijin is too cheap to have a server within 10000km of SPAAG is easymode at 8.3.

Because they don’t or won’t fly planes. i’m not entirely surprised you have trouble understanding that.

That’s hilarious considering how much better my stats are than yours. keep being deluded.

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a lot of talk for someone whose most played CAS aircraft, one of the literaly easiest most overpowered CAS aircraft at its br of 8.3. 337 matches 476 air kills while at the same time doing 456 ground kills
Quite a hypocrite aint you?
In the meantime let me check your spaa stats
L-62 Anti II most played spaa with 328 games and 1251 kills, 10 from those being air kills Seal clubbing much lol

your first guided Spaa AMX 30 S DCA 242 games 106 air kills and 365 ground kills

last one i gonna name since i reached page for the ZA 35 165 games 76 air kills and 111 ground kills

The guy using spaas for anti tank warfare wants to talk big about how they are OP air killers, when he himself uses even better CAS aircrafts, look at your own statistics, your 8.3 aircraft overperforms spaas easily. And you are complainign about spaas being to easy???

besides that smart ass, i never said that. Specialy with cannon spaas its better to move into the center to intercept planes. and shouldnt be kept open.
But your assumption of being played one handed when u literaly dont even play spaas as spaa duty is golden.

and genius spaas get balanced towards the strongest aircraft at their brs like the saab u love using and alpha jet and so on
Cause any other spaa wouldnt stand a chance at all. You just want to abuse CAS planes pretty much and bully the map

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Because of only -2 gun depression

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AHEAD, IRST track, NVD, Laser

And ur sticking with -2.

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dotSHINI

Arguing with CAS players is like teaching cats to play Counterstrike

Pointless

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TBF most AA trees need compression

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True, i mean i am not arguing that the pgz09 could go up a bit in br.
But his statements about plying spaas are just bad and he doesnt even ülay them as spaas to begin with.
Even SAMs arent that easy to play since you need to have the spacial awareness of whats going on.
Switch between radar modes/ IRST , adjust missle paths and so on
Besides that trucks like the flarakrad, ito 90m pantsir cant move micj out pf spawn since they just are to big. Or the map is so covered in the middle that your missles would go into buildings or the radar is covered

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im just trolling lol, yes it should move up.

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It should go down or be available at lower br, just let people spawn it with 500-700sp bro so more ground mains can remove CAS from ground battles.

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At least we can confirm that you’re not smart enough to know what CAS means. nor ar you smart enough to not repeatedly contradict yourself.

I have thousands of matches, but the best you could do for “most played CAS aircraft” is 337 matches. apparently you’re also too thick to even name the aircraft. If you’re talking about the Saab 105, it’s literally the only plane sweden has from 8.0 to 9.0 you simpleton. it also faces braindead AA like the chapparal, gepard a2, zsu23m4, type 93 and santal. it also faces the countless radar guided AA, including the PGZ09 and M247. AA will kill you 9/10 if it’s focusing on you, they also have the advantage of being able to detect and track aircraft infinintely easier than aircraft can do to them.

I also find especially telling your criticism that i don’t sit in spawn with AA and wait for planes, which is evidently exactly what you do, which pathetic.

The L-62 was a great way to clear unexpected threat special tasks. again, thousands of games, but you have issue with me using a vehicle a few hundred? you’re an idiot.

Which is why i said evidently, do you legitimately have some kind of intellectual disability?

LOL, you literally listed AA vehicles that i have been using, the say “u literaly dont even play spaas”. how is it even possible to be that stupid?

Nope. unsurprisingly you are wrong as always. nobody know how gaijin balances vehicles, evidently not even themselves. but as is clear from what has happened numerous times they are largely balanced against other ground vehicles. which is one reason why they keep changing their ammo belts.

SPAAs getting RADAR makes them dominant against aircraft. in matches lower than that aircraft often have the advantage because they often already know where AA is before they even spawn and the AA has no better way of detecting them than any other vehicle. RADAR flips that completely and allows for automatic lead. Gaijin even gave AA the ability to replenish their own ammunition too, so they can just spray.

“You just want to abuse CAS planes” it seems in your incredible bias you’ve omitted the fact that i don’t play aircraft much in GRB at all. while also missing the fact that this post is about how the PGZ09 is incredibly undertiered. Perhaps try thinking before you type things in the future.

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Says the guy who wallet warriors with the Ju 288. priceless.

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LOL. I literally said that i was talking about 8.3. but you keep strawmanning as if i was talking about all BRs. are you dishonest or just stupid?

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Did i answer to you there? No i didnt

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Generaly just bad statements of you.
And u dont play spaas as anti but as anti tank vehicles. Thats the point of you not realy using it for anti air. You dont realy play spaas. Thats 3 u ever realy played and then not even for anti air duty.

A28B and vampire stop lying

And faces braindead spaa like gepard zsu etc all have radars the gepard has radar guidance as well. You are contradicting yourself and ozelot/ type 93 /santal br is quite a bit higher as thwy should be since they are sams.

Learn reading

Again learn reading. PGZ09 specialy is undertiered. But that doesnt make them braindead like u claim them to be

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there are bullpups and as 20 around 8.7 and 8.3, ccip is not the only counter for spaag, they can easily kill almost all spaag around this br, aside from the PGZ09, quite easily so i wouldnt say that the spaa dominates air.

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If you’re saying what i think you’re saying, which isn’t clear because your english blows, then that’s actually worse.

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You know they’re both MCLOS right? so either they fly in a straight line, or they’re not guided. unless you’re really bad neither of those should be a problem for 8.3 AA. But again this isn’t what the post is about, it’s about how disgustingly OP the PGZ09 is at 8.3.

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You can guide them…

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Do you not know what MCLOS means? Manual command to line of sight. it’s entirely manually guided. ingame this means that either the plane can fly in a straight line and use the arrow keys to make the missile go up, down, left, right, or they can cancel guidance and it just flies straight. the plane is an incredibly easy kill, or the missile isn’t guided.