Gepard and PGZ09 at 8.3?

[Pangolin_Fan]

@Miragen

Sounds like it’s a skill issue if you’re being hit by an SPAA who is just shooting long range

Not when Warthunder shitty lag compensation puts the bullets 20 meters behind where they actually are.

@Miragen

And when they waste their entire ammo shooting at you and it pays off

When they waste hundreds of bullets because of their own stupidity, yet get paid for it as a single random bullet hits, then that’s a problem.

@Armen_Lozone

yeah if youre taking bi-planes into 8.3

Cool, no1 cares that you take biplanes to 8.3

@Armen_Lozone

you have guided weapons at that BR

Two A-4s, one gets bullpups and one gets walleyes. Bullpups obviously aren’t a solution is their effective range is shorter than stingers, and Walleyes, well, I don’t even need to explain why they’re not a solution.

@Armen_Lozone

like i said. you have a special bias against germany because there exist stinger-Ks for more than germany.

XD LAV-AD isn’t 9.7, and Machbets are comically rare to see ingame, let alone on enemy team.

The level of bias it takes you to defend Germany is crazy.

[MapleVII-live]

Havent people learned to stop engaging the rage baiter known as Pangolin

[Aegis270]

@Pangolin_Fan

Issue with 6.7 Kugel is that it’s near unkillable to at 6.7 CAS

@Nowel

It isnt, bombs are a thing and you can kill it by using your guns aswell

@Pangolin_Fan

Not all planes have bombs, and if you do, then you needa sacrifice a bomb to kill it, and it’s not even a slightly garunteed kill.

I just have to highlight this because, by this logic, all non-strafable vehicles in the game are “near unkillable to CAS”.

[RunaDacino]

@Aegis270

I just have to highlight this because, by this logic, all non-strafable vehicles in the game are “near unkillable to CAS”.

I myself am just struggling to think of any dedicated strike aircraft that lacks bombs or rockets once spaded. There’s the… german duck and the ju.87 with the giant cannons?

There’s a few non strike planes in the strike plane lines like P61C but those are labelled as interceptors or fighters.

And a lot of fighters, especially american can carry bombs. Especially american where you can put 2 1000 lbs bombs AND hvar on a f4u-4. (sorry, f8f is the one with 3 1000 lbs bombs)

If it’s CAS, you expect it to have rockets or bombs, no?

[Pangolin_Fan]

@Aegis270

I just have to highlight this because, by this logic, all non-strafable vehicles in the game are “near unkillable to CAS”.

Seems like you mistyped. What you meant to say was

All unstrafable vehicles that also have 2 30mm autocannons, are “near unkillable to CAS”

[Miragen]

When they waste hundreds of bullets because of their own stupidity, yet get paid for it as a single random bullet hits, then that’s a problem.

How is that a problem?

[PercussionCap]

@Pangolin_Fan

All unstrafable vehicles that also have 2 30mm autocannons, are “near unkillable to CAS”

Yes it’s called an AA. Skink does the same with four 20mm autocannons.

[Detach0-0]

No, 12.7 gun could easily pen kugel turret on top, not to mention 20mm guns

[БЕИ]

@Pangolin_Fan

Issue with 6.7 Kugel is that it’s near unkillable to at 6.7 CAS

Actually I think all SPAA should be removed from the game bro, I mean this is a plane game, anyone who jumped into a plane should be granted the feeling and privilege of a KING. Also as a CAS main like myself, they need to remove the BKAN too, that thing is ridiculous bro bro

[ZendikarHaven]

@БЕИ

Also as a CAS main like myself, they need to remove the BKAN too, that thing is ridiculous bro bro

[Black_Widow]

What the actuall frick did you say?

[БЕИ]

It’s a dead giveaway since I responded to Pangolin Fan

[Pangolin_Fan]

@PercussionCap

Yes it’s called an AA. Skink does the same with four 20mm autocannons.

Skink’s cannons are pathetic. There’s a reason that basically no1 who plays Britain uses it.

[Armen_Lozone]

@Pangolin_Fan

The level of bias it takes you to defend Germany is crazy.

defending germany? nah
laughing at the guy who cant outpull a poor 13G missile? absolutely

[PercussionCap]

@Pangolin_Fan

Skink’s cannons are pathetic.

So are kugelblitz’s with their 450rpm.

[Miragen]

Top is like 16mm

[Croloh]

In my opinion Gepard is part of the strongest AA at this BR with others look alikes , 8.3 is just soooooo good for these vehicles, i don’t get why the only 8.7 aa is the AMX30 DCA tho, the firing rate is kinda doo doo.
Welp Tech does not do evrything but BR needs to be aggregated in clumps so in my opinion that is why PGZ09 is the same BR as gepard, but both deserves to get higher BR IMO.

[Pangolin_Fan]

XD complaining about the Kugie’s firerate?

[PercussionCap]

Yes, it’s garbage. Paired with the unresponsive turret movement and long reload it is one of the worst spaas I have ever used unless a plane decides to head-on you.

[WolfgangTheSecon]

I’ve honestly had a lot of success with it, but that’s definitely more because it’s “clicked” with my brain’s internal ballistics computer than because it at all deserves 7.0. Even then, almost all of the kills are people going headon with you or flying low, slow, and full broadside around you trying to bomb your spawn.