Gepard and PGZ09 at 8.3?

7.3 ZSU is a better vehicle than the M163. You’re denying that soley because you’re biased.

Not really, ZSU is also much slower and bigger.

Meanwhile the Kugelblitz is .3 away from the M163 and Shilka.

2 Likes

Yeah it should go back to 6.7, there isnt much of a reason to use it as there is not a line up for it, but be careful, someone could call it op since it pens more than 40mm

6 Likes

Issue with 6.7 Kugel is that it’s near unkillable to at 6.7 CAS

It isnt, bombs are a thing and you can kill it by using your guns aswell and if being unable to kill it with cas was an issue, then keep in mind that the coelian is still at 6.7 and you also have the skink at 5.3, the two of them are actually harder to kill it with cas

2 Likes

Not all planes have bombs, and if you do, then you needa sacrifice a bomb to kill it, and it’s not even a slightly garunteed kill.

coelian is undertiered, and the british skinky thing isn’t even a threat 90% of the time cause its guns’ muzzle velocity is so slow.

Imagine planes not being able to trivially counter every SPAA in the game.

11 Likes

Spot the CAS abuser in this thread…

2 Likes

Imagine German SPAA not being able to trivally counter every prop CAS in the game.

Yeah because SPAA is notoriously trivial to use in comparison to air.

2 Likes

It’s pretty braindead. Sit in spawn with one hand tied behind your back, fire at a plane outside your range missing hundreds of shots, a singular shot hits, and somehow you win.

See a plane at an unknown distance moving at an unknown speed, fire for 10 seconds, reload for 10 seconds, fire for 10 seconds, reload for 10 seconds.

You can easily stay out of reach from the SPAA the entire game.

3 Likes

imagine being so biased that you jump saying muh duh germany every time you have to work to earn your kills

fact of the matter is, outside of 1.5km the gepard is practically useless. 4km if youre talking about the 1A2

1 Like

This post was flagged by the community and is temporarily hidden.

Sounds like it’s a skill issue if you’re being hit by an SPAA who is just shooting long range at you when you have seconds to record to the incoming rounds and known exactly where they are coming from, where 50% of the time it is reloading.

And when they waste their entire ammo shooting at you and it pays off because you let it happen, and they get some pitiful reward for doing so after dedication half the match shooting at you, you still think that’s unfair that you weren’t able to ignore it the entire time.

2 Likes

yeah if youre taking bi-planes into 8.3

good luck bro. i cant fix that

you have guided weapons at that BR. going in close is your own mistake.
like i said. i cant fix that error in your judgement (for lack of a nicer phrase)

like i said. you have a special bias against germany because there exist stinger-Ks for more than germany.
image
(not counting helicopter mounted ATAS (Air-To-Air-Stinger) of which germany only has 1 user)

not to mention theyre a 13G missile. flare resistance is more or less accurate to IRL but the G overload should be 20 or 22 as according to documents.

and by the way, Strela can lock onto you with Photocontrast (meaning it can lock onto your image instead of thermal signature) so the issue about engine off and still being tracked is irrelevant (especially considering that your engine stays hot for a long time after its turned off, even if the oil and water readings are down, the metal itself as well as the surrounding fuselage stays hot enough for an IR signature)

exactly lol, the Gepard, unlike the PGZ09 only has rounds that have tracers. so its pretty visible where they coming from

2 Likes

Not when Warthunder shitty lag compensation puts the bullets 20 meters behind where they actually are.

When they waste hundreds of bullets because of their own stupidity, yet get paid for it as a single random bullet hits, then that’s a problem.

Cool, no1 cares that you take biplanes to 8.3

Two A-4s, one gets bullpups and one gets walleyes. Bullpups obviously aren’t a solution is their effective range is shorter than stingers, and Walleyes, well, I don’t even need to explain why they’re not a solution.

XD LAV-AD isn’t 9.7, and Machbets are comically rare to see ingame, let alone on enemy team.

The level of bias it takes you to defend Germany is crazy.

Havent people learned to stop engaging the rage baiter known as Pangolin

1 Like

I just have to highlight this because, by this logic, all non-strafable vehicles in the game are “near unkillable to CAS”.

9 Likes