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Yeah, that’s true; Krons has a lot of fantastical elements in-game. I’d imagine Gaijin overlooked a lot of those factors to make a ship that can perform decently in-game. That said I’m surprised they haven’t added in Project 69-I with the 38cm guns yet or even the already modeled Project 82. I’ll amend my statement, though, to recognize then that Amagi is our first unfinalized preliminary design that’s been implemented. That said, I’m not necessarily opposed to them adding more ships like that for gameplay purposes, but I’ll admit I’m somewhat disappointed we don’t have the finalized Amagi with the very nice trunked funnel and of course the very fancy observation balloon lol

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Is there any armor that is being ignored by Amagi? I believe any armor over 30 lbs is thick enough to be modeled in game, but I believe there is armor near the deck and on the sides under the secondary guns that is listed as over 30lbs.

It seems that Amagi does not have bulkheads like Ise and Fuso. Is this correct?

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Is it correct that the modules in the barbette are turrets and not elevators? On the Mutsu they are elevators.

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Is it possible that the longitudinal bulkhead on the middle deck is also the wrong shape? It doesn’t cover the #1 turret.


https://iiif.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp/repo/s/hiraga/document/96996dc3-bc42-4393-a14f-fde489ea034d#?c=0&m=0&s=0&cv=1&xywh=4687%2C2616%2C1327%2C2040

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I found the blueprints for Amagi that Gaijin used as a reference. Taisho 8 is 1919.

https://iiif.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp/repo/s/hiraga/document/2fa5b6d8-fff4-4843-80c5-4f520344d415#?c=0&m=0&s=0&cv=2&xywh=0%2C-2872%2C6943%2C10670

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Question about the event related to new crew voices. After translation, the 3D decoration is supposed to be “available worldwide”. I have already won more than 10 naval battles but didn’t receive the reward (yes, I’m aware of rank and activity requirements) . Is this some kind of a bug, or just translation error ?

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Sadly, the event is limited to players connected via DMM.

I thought that based on the wording, the event would be similar to DMM’s 2021 twitch tournament, where worldwide players got a title and other item, even though it was supposed to be limited to DMM players as well.

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Aye, it looks to be roughly the same ship they modeled in-game. That said, I have been looking into the funnel issue, and it seems that the superstructure arrangement was not finalized when Amagi was laid down. The arrangement was only finalized in September 1921, which is when the shipyard blueprints were made.

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This drawing is a prediction I made based on the keyword 1919 and the fact that it is close to the modeling in the game. I can’t guarantee that it’s accurate. Also, I can’t guarantee that this drawing itself is correct. As pointed out, Amagi has been redesigned several times.

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So it seems Lord_Vader tried to report the anachronistic Heavy Cruiser shielded single 120s on Amagi. He was oddly met with the same response as the other bug reports:

“In the game, the ship is made according to the 1919 drawing. Is not an error.”

IJN Amagi Anti-aircraft guns model problem // Gaijin.net // Issues

Quite a baffling response

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If that is the drawing they used, then why did they give her the updated turret models that were actually produced for the Amagi and Tosa classes and later refitted onto the Nagato class rather than the original unmodernized Nagato style turrets as featured in the drawing? They obviously can’t have exclusively followed that as a reference.

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Because they just want to hide they are lazy and lack of enthusiasm.

When it comes to a far future, do you think this is how it will go down?

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Recently Veryfire comes out with IJN Yamato with newest design, not only following drawings left by IJN but also pictures and testimony of survivors, plus survey result done with diving.

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It clearly shows that some designs should be changed from what we’ve known, including one of 25 mm triple enclosed mount links to bridge.

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Recently disgraceful behavior of Gaijin worries me whether they were to solve such modelling problem as they already made IJN Yamato’s modelling.

That’s the genuinely baffling part because the turrets, even on the finalized drawings, are entirely different. That said, the turret modeling issue is the one report they did accept and haven’t used the 1919 excuse on… yet.

The report also included images of one of the Coastal Defense fortifications built around one of the unmodified Amagi turrets:
IJN Amagi Turret Modeling Issue // Gaijin.net // Issues

A Comparison of the turrets found on the Kaga and Amagi-class ships
Source: What are the problems with the Amagi modeling of War Thunder? - A detailed explanation of the construction of the Amagi-class battlecruiser - Bilibili

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It looks like someone is trying to get Amagi somewhat corrected again. I wish them luck!

IJN Amagi wrong model // Gaijin.net // Issues

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This seems likely to me, though the actual placement of the current ships should be changed. Amagi should be the end of the Battlecruiser line, not Mutsu.

I see! So you would swap Mutsu and Amagi around, right?

Definitely. That at least gives a tenuous connection of shared design/role in each branch.

What happened to the rocket sight for coastal vessels such Isuzu?

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This Yubetsu?

Although there is also this one

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