Explain please.
Tanks and SPAA can only get RP in ground, its the only mode available, whereas planes can go and use any mode, ARB for example, then goto ground fully modified
Okay, i slightly missed what you meant. Sorry for that.
I dont know if you play ARB 5.7 half the time all you get to fight is 6 germans with half a team of ju 288c’s
Why?
My aircraft experience is from way back when the game only had planes.
Recently i played planes for a BP mission, and sometimes play Air Assault for boosters. That’s pretty much all my air experience.
I am not an air player, and i suck at it, but at least i know it.
Planes are just not my thing.
Whats you view of CAS in ground? If you dont mind me asking
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A tool for bad players to get easy kills.
As i said, i am a horrible pilot, and i die to a plane even if it is piloted by someone who just downloaded the game 5 minutes ago, yet i can get ground kills very easily.
Anything that is flying is just unfair for tanks. Even if there is SPAA, or friendly air coverage.
You can watch any spookston video, or the recent DollarPlays video on it.
You can also look at any poll mabe about it, and you will see that most of the players think it is completly unfair.
2 examples:
Now i don’t want CAS to be deleted from ground. What i want is a separate AB and RB mode, just with tanks, and maybe spotting drones (but NOT the strike drones).
So that everybody can be happy. Those who want to see only tanks can be happy too, and CAS players can be happy too.
If you want a more detailed answer i am happy to provide it if you want.
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Sadly on this forum You will meet people who don’t want others to be happy, because they are scared of competition.
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Oh i know it. Throughout my whole life i debated with a lot of people about a wide range of topics, with religious people (3-4 different sects, plus i was forecd to go to religious school), elon musk worshippers, scam new tech worshippers (solar roadways, hyperloop, and other BS), and here with CASvocates, russian bias whiners, someone whining about M-51 sherman…
Mostly they are either so blind that they actually believe it, or just dishonest liars and misrepresenters.
I know that facts don’t matter to them, but i am trying anyway.
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Please do not tell me to play SPAA , it boring and I simply dont want to do it
Then die to helicopters? I don’t care. You go out of your way to choosing not to play the vehice that effectively counters them. I’ll spawn heli first because it’s fun. I save my SP with my Ka-50 for Vikhrs… While the Ah-6 and others are pretty alright dropping in behind everyone as a first spawn throwing rockets… It’s a good time.
Put it as simple as possible here…
It is like rock paper scissors. You keep using rock. While everyone is using paper. Yet you refuse to use scissors. You lose everytime come to the forums and cry.
Are you picking up what I’m putting down?
Half of these posts are complaining over the stupidest stuff. Boo hoo CAS bad. Helis shouldn’t spawn first.
Bro maybe lets allow to spawn nuke plane as first spawn, why not
I hope I can join ARB some day with my SPAA lineup , I wonder if fighter players would be happy
I can’t even continue to attempt at having a discussion with you when all you do is reply with these sarcastic posts.
Game is unplayable? Yeah… Sure it is. Come and get your daily dose of copium. I’ll be sure to have a couple rockets set aside for you.
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Sure. Who uses copium?
Sureply an SPAA with guns only can counter a heli from 8km.
Even the ones with missiles are not a counter. Good luck locking on a heli with some missile AA.
But let’s ignore all these, even if you manage to launch a missile at it, there is a big chance that the heli won’t be destroyed.
And then, even if it is destroyed, it still has a few seconds to launch missiles/rockets/bombs/shoot guns AFTER it was destroyed.
Also not like they can safely rearm on a heli pad, while an SPAA has to find a friendly base to rearm, and stand still for a long time, and when a teammate bumbs into it, the whole rearming process resets…
Let’s just ignore all those.
I bet it is.
My Mi-28a doesn’t agree with that ;)
Such a simple lie. This game was never like that and anyone trying to say that it is, only shows their true colors.
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Why not get in the air and challenge cas …I dont know why you dont try its an important part of the game but if you refuse to try this game will not be fun… The counter to cas is using your sp for something other than a MBT Im sorry to tell you this
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Literally any prop will trash any helicopter no it wont stop heli rush but most heli’s cant use 8km guided weapons at start the ka’s can pull some cheese but I have shot those down using the HEAT proxy round more often then not in my Abrams AIM if I see the rush if I dont see a heli rush thats a me problem not a impossible to counter problem
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Its very common starting BR 10.7+ to see helo right at the start. I tend to spawn my Machbeth and i get at least a free kill per match right from the start. It has always been a nightmare with the KA helo right when KA50 premium was brought into game. Nothing new.
What still is an issue - Drones. You just cannot kill them with the stingers - out of range
I still haven’t seen a proper argument against TO that isn’t “muh queue times” and “idc, Gaijin said no”.
In my opinion, branches should be treated equally so whenever the said branch gets big enough to sustain itself, it should get a standalone mode.
To be clear, someone that enjoys aircraft and couldn’t care less about tanks is given the opportunity to play aircraft-only mode, which is more than fine.
But problem arises when people, Gaijin included, don’t want to give the same rights to others that enjoy tanks and couldn’t care less about aircraft, while giving the good old statement of “adapt or die”. I don’t see air players having to “adapt” to long-range SAMs in their game mode.
Also, work to create TO should be minimal, we already have more than enough ground units at each BR, maps are also abundant.
Only thing that would change is the removal of helis (something that already large part of the BR ranges doesn’t have) and planes.
I’m sure my LAV-AD (and other IR SPAAs) can effectively counter helis around it’s BR. When you give me a video of you locking and killing a heli that’s ~4km away, then we can talk.
It’s actually really funny how people will cry and moan about something like Object 279 to go up, because fully downtiered tanks will have a hard time dealing with it, meanwhile SPAAs that are basically, purposely made to counter helis, won’t even be able to touch them, even something that’s below their BR lmao.
Goes for helis as well.
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Because it is called “ground” mode. While the correct name currently should be “air, but you can go suffer in ground too”.
Interesting, air players don’t have to grind a ground tech tree to be competent in AIR mode, yet both ground AND naval has to grind air to be competent. Does it not ring the bells in you ears?
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pop smoke, or move behind an obstacle. dont sit in spawn without ever moving, too easy to spot. and you can blow up a spike with your SAMs.
Well said.
Tho i would add my speculation, that CASvocates are so active in these threads, because they know that if a TO mod ever were to be implemented, queue times would be high, but for them, because 60-80% of the players would just play TO.
Isnt that like only 2-3km? But even 4 is laughably short range.
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