It’s a shame we don’t have more Pantsir equivalents across the board.
The problem spreads way below top tier.
Devs don’t have a crystal ball but they had more than enough time (several years) to balance cancerous helicopters at higher tiers, but guess what, they absolutely don’t care.
Yeah, only thing they’ve added in the last two updates, that’s somewhat higher tier, are two Chaparrals and Type 81. All of those are basically shit against helis since they have IR-based missiles and only Type 81 can be considered good against aircraft.
Also, it’s good to note neither of those have any close-range or AT weaponry.
Meanwhile, in the same time period, they’ve added 11 higher tier aircraft and 8 higher tier helicopters, which just goes to show how much they care about SPAA’s well being, and are obviously catering to the paying masses.
Just because they are driven by greed doesn’t mean TO isn’t a good (and fair) idea.
Only data they care about are the sales. Considering how many premium planes/helis are flying around, I doubt they’ll do anything that can be harmful to their money making machine.
I’m sure those are bound to be introduced regardless.
Even now, having your radar working has penalties attached to it, since so many stuff have RWRs, and you are also conveniently recognized (for the most part), so you can partially ignore pings from something like RLD because you know it’s crap.
I didnt say it is a good or bad idea, you guys have a tendency of tweaking what I say.
Video game is a business, the devs are not working for peanuts.
To say if an idea is good or bad : It depends on the demand, if you are a small minority of cas-haters then it is not worth spending days working on a new mode for the devs. You can continue voicing as much as you want they will not hear you.
Indeed, but they also should work on balancing stuff out, you know, decreasing the power of OP stuff and vice versa. You can’t have your profit margin be the excuse for the terrible balancing.
I doubt even Gaijin knows what would the demand be for TO, afaik they never ran in-game polls about that matter.
Also, TO would be a direct competitor of the current GRB, and in my opinion they aren’t willing to risk it going south for the current mode, where players might very well transition from that mode, thus reducing the sales of regularly used premium planes/helis.
Nothing is really preventing TO from happening that isn’t pure greed.
Do you even re-read the stuff you write before posting ?
Only work they have to do is removing the ability for non-ground vehicles to spawn, everything else is already in the game.
game is unplayable because its so easy to get a cap and a assist to spawn a fully loaded plane
you don’t have to play for the team to do that
it requires 0 effort to spawn a fully loaded Heli/plane and just bomb targets that have no chance
and i swear by god if ppl now say spawn spaa gtfo
i played enough rounds with first spawn as spaa and still got nuked by cancer 50/52 f16 or other shit why ?
vikhirs will trigger my sams, if you have only 2 ready vs a average heli pilot you are dead
same for the f16 there enough times where i could do shit except accepting my fate because planes like f16 would stay out of range :)
and don’t tell me to "just hide behind a building or tree’s
show me on each map where to hide stuff like flakrad or ito etc those things are bigger then some buildings :D
If i want to play planes i play air Rb if i want to play tanks i have to play ground rb, getting killed by ppl that prob steal the lolly from little kids… (rushing with stuff like broken cancer 50/52 that kill 4-5 more people after you nuked them with stuff like bagel/puma Bradley lav etc)
anyway simple solution make it hard to spawn fully loaded planes/helis and not just as easy as it it rn
Just spawn SPAA dude.
LAV-AD or Ozelot can easily counter stuff like MI-24, G-LYNX or eve… nah it can’t.
SPAA buses are often humongous, you would need an apartment complex to hide properly.
This is further worsened by the fact our maps are extremely small, and your “hiding” area is often times ridiculously small.
I love how people respond to every single one of your comments, except comments like this, because they can’t tell you to “learn to play” and “skill issue” and “just spawn in a plane”. The fact that you do that and still think CAS has a balance problem completely short-circuits their usual script.
At least at 11.7 you have semi-decent SPAA to deal with CAS & Heli Spam.
I prefer the 9.7-10.3 Bracket, theres slightly less smart munitions to deal with, but the major issue is lack of SPAA that can deal with CAS.
Worst thing to deal with currently is the A6E TRAM, that literally carries out orbital strikes from the upper atmosphere, way beyond the range of SPAA in that bracket. Its quite rare to get a SAM (Guided or IR) to that alt.
ULQ’s point regarding CAS is like somebody trying to enjoy a game of Chess and another person walks buy and kicks the board up into to air and sends the pieces flying.Has no relevance to how good either chess player is.A great tank duel smashed by a plane dropping a bomb.
I like CAS but I completely understand where he is coming from.Any sensible player can see this.Some people on here just like to set themselves up as enemies to others and downvote or flag everything they say even if they agree with it.
Exactly. I like playing SPAA and am trying to get good at it, because the mode requires it. I will do the same with planes eventually. And of course some of the TO people are way overdramatic.
But look, it’s my honest opinion that CAS has a balance problem. And there are ways to solve it beyond TO too, although that solution has two benefits - fast to test, and gives you two ground modes with radically different metas.
This is the issue and is the point I made a long time ago about “If you can’t beat them join them” with regards to accepting flying and using CAS instead of just complaining about it.It is a good point but it is not the only point and it does not address the point ULQ makes.
I don’t see somebody using a plane to skillfully get 6 kills to be any more OP than somebody using a tank to get six kills.What is unfair is when I get X6 kills in a PE8 and nobody down there can do a thing about it .I laugh they cry,I do a little dance while they put their fist through the monitor. :)
Only justification is the time and effort I put into grinding the PE8 and to get the Big Bomb ,then I have to drop it without killing my own.Most fighters dont attack me until after I have bombed and many get shot down by auto gunners(another perk).The PR 8 is fun and if it was nerfed I guess i might play WT less.If there a No CAS alternative game I would ditch the Pe 8 and play land only,get my head down ,lock it to the concentration mindset and focus and enjoy myself a different way.
Only existing argument to a No Cas variant is that of queue times.
Helis of that BR range are also almost impossible to deal with if you have IR-based SPAA.
I’m sure it’s so hard to create a new mode that’s basically GRB without planes and helis, weeks or even months would be needed to get it going, for sure.
I heard loads of bad things about the Stormer, it’s bugged to hell and beyond.
Also, IR based SPAAs struggle to lock helis in their operational range, so if they have even a single braincell, you won’t even be able to fire at them.
Most planes will also be able to easily dodge IR missiles from everything that isn’t Strela or Type 81, since others underperform for the most part.
Sadly, Brits aren’t the only one who lack proper SPAA options at that and in other tiers as well. It’s a wide spread issue affecting plethora of nations and BR ranges, but it seems like Gaijin isn’t really keen to solve that.
Quick solution, if you take out a plane and heli in GRB you can no longer take out another vehicle, as soon as you lose the plane nothing else is taken out, even if there were problems, you get rid of the revenge bombings and the planes three minutes into the game for capturing and dying , since the logical thing is that people would generally use the plane or heli as a last resort.
You see, how he shot down a Jaguar and Harrier? The problem in this case is not generally CAS, but the Ka-50 that requires very little player input to perform miracles.
outdated game modes + small-tiny maps, repetitive and bad developed maps (realism is arcade without marks), unbalanced countermeasures for Ground vs Air (GRB) + lack of secondary objectives and criteria to spawn a CAS.