I agree they keep cutting off areas spaas have cover in so forces them to be in the open. Which = CAS has the overall advantage.
Even some top tier SPAAs will have quite a big list of flaws that can be deadly, for example no smokes, bad gun elevation, small amounts of ready missiles, size, etc.
True, MAWs are a common thing now, even stuff as low as 10.7 get it (Chinese Z9), which is basically “Hey, someone just fired a missile at you, but don’t worry, you’ll have several seconds to hide behind cover” style of a crutch.
Not only that, loads of semi-modern helicopters will have RWR, alerting them of any radar activity on the ground, so SPAA users are forced to either suffer the consequences or turn their radars off, relying solely on their eyes (most of early SAMs don’t even have thermals) to scan the entire horizon, while helicopter pilots will have a much easier time finding enemy SPAA in a 300m x 300m box (often even smaller) where they’re relatively safe from ground units.
Hilariously broken.
So let me get this right… I make a perfectly good argument, and instead of you accepting that you have no counterargument to it, you choose to strawmen it…
What the hell do you expect then?
I asked, that why do air players NOT have to grind 2 different tech trees to be competetive, and you said that they have to…
Well it does not take a genious to figure out the context. Air players= those who play Air AB/RB/sim.
Another strawmening. I am not talking about how much they have to grind.
My argument was, that a pure air player (who plays in air mode (i hope you will understand if i made it clear now)) does not have to grind 2 different tech trees besides his air tree to be competetive in air games.
Give me this in the game and I would get rid of CAS spam. I actually operated these in the Marines. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T60TIWPQXVE&t=147s
I got such a good game with F4U-4B that I was even called a cheater by two people from enemy team :D
Ground targets destroyed: 9
Air targets destroyed: 5
I died to the german duck as I went for full head-on with it as it was the end of the game. And of course I was able to get a fully loaded F4U-4B after just capping a zone. Not to mention that I haven’t even been on airfield to reload.
Most of the things you mentioned are actually based on realism wether it fits the game or not and gaijin likes to applies kind of things.
Just wait until top tier jets or new versions gets MAW system, it will be even more hilarious.
I know it’s realistic but stuff like that should be introduced with caution. For example, modern tanks have an option to lead targets automatically for you, but I don’t see that being in the game.
Everything gets a MAW, nice.
Meanwhile ground will be stuck with vehicles that are bigger than an apartment complex on a 1km x 1km map.
You know how it is, Classic gaijin move.
Yup.
Of course, it’s easy to exploit probably the least playable vehicle type in higher tiers just to make the game more enjoyable for others.
Here’s your premium helicopter, you’ll be able to kill things on the ground almost with impunity. If you want to counter it effectively, better buy our premium helicopters/planes since you’ll get 2in1 effect. You’ll be able to counter your killer, while also being capable of molesting ground units yourself.
No wonder they’re reluctant to add brokenly OP premium SPAAs, fix already existing ones and close the gaping holes in the AA tree. Disgusting behavior.
I heard they’re adding even more modern aircraft in December, while I haven’t seen any modern SPAAs being planned to balance it.
I would love premium SPAAs.
İ agree.
High tier premiums should never be avaliable for new players, it should be only avaliable after you reach certain milage in this game.
Get ready for Swedish JAS39C aka Gripen.
That thing can carry many guided munitions alongside with A2A ordinance.
Russia will probably recieve Su-27 and Usa will get F-15 as Well.
So you’d rather have people advocate for no CAS at all than for nerfs? Or are you just saying out of ill will go to No CAS knowing exactly its of no use because Gaijin already said its never going to happen?
How about actually caring for what would be overall good for the Game, the Matchmaking and enjoyment of the greater Community instead of just discrediting anything which goes against what you specifically like or do while saying its of most importance to have xy added, removed/changed whatever that you like.
Huge problem of this Community as a whole, just pure factionalism.
Sorry but no matter what changes, the main problem will still remain. Air is unbalanced when it comes to fighting tanks.
No.
I would also love to have a couple of brokenly OP premium SPAAs.
Greed is responsible for loads of issues we have in the game currently.
In my opinion, you have no business buying and playing, for example, tier 7 premium if you don’t have that tier unlocked, simple as.
Nothing unusual, you can already get shit on by a Walleye while playing 7.7 vehicles, so I bet those things will be cancerous on nth power, especially if Gaijin just leaves current AA top tier as it is.
Guys: If you don’t like how CAS works in GFRB, quit playing GFRB. There are plenty of other ways to play this game. If you had your heart set on tank battles, then CAS is implemented differently in both arcade and SIM mods. Playing tanks in modes you don’t enjoy is wasting your time and mental health.
Or we can ask for another mode which will be much better than current farm spot for CAS.
Even this mode is super easy to fix , make ground weapons loadouts x2 SP , while lower AA setups in SP problem solved. But naaaaah KA50 with 16 Vihrs , just 520 SP , super balanced !
You’re typing with the guy that had the longest thread on the last forum, trying to get a mode added for just tanks. I’m no longer hoping for that to come about. I’m suggesting now that anyone still driving the targets in GFRB is actually hurting the case for CAS not being fair.
Agree.
İf they add SEAD capability to High tier jets it will be even more powerful then ever, but tbh i would like to smash Pantsir players more easily.
That thing is nasty against regular players.
I play cold war era and SPAA are at disadvantage against tanks, tanks at disadvantage vs CAS, CAS at disavantage against SPAA and Air fighters.
Top tier is always more experimental until they get enough data to adjust. If you are playing top tier you have to consider that the devs do not have a crystal ball.
The devs have clearly decided to work on the spaa options and make it more attractive as a quick fix. We had quite a few new SPAAs last update and I believe it will come more. I think that definitely burries your idea of a tank only mode.
Conclusion, instead of fighting all day on the forum, you better create a group/community of cas-haters and start custom battles and see how it goes. You will see clearly if you are so many players willing to play tank only as you say. If it is true, if data proves it, I think the devs will start talking.