Game is unplayable for ground with Heli / CAS spam

They don’t want aircraft removed from the aircraft modes though…

No you cannot change your vehicle unless you get killed. But wait, if you havent got killed, what is your problem then? Why are you complaining again?

You don’t understand, do You?

How am I supposed to protect myself from planes if I can’t change into a vechicle that can deal with them?

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No I dont understand what is your problem, what do you mean by “I cannot deal with it” when you do not get killed?

cas complainers are always the first to stop actually saying things and just throw pathetic insults

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You don’t get that I’m talking about the moment when I get attacked?

I think the balance is there. In modern warfare air assets pummel ground forces. So if top tier is dominated by CAS and Helis, then that is the right balance.

I suggest increasing the reward for shooting down CAS, double it from destroying a ground vehicle. Since Helicopters are a bit easier, maybe a 1.5 multiplier over ground vehicles for Helis and 3x ground for shooting down CAS.

I also suggest no chance of respawn after using CAS or a Heli.

What does modern warfare have to do with WT? This is a game with no infantry, no real artillery, no realistic command structure or mission types, time-travelling vehicles from all eras. It’s a game where Israel and the Third Reich can be on the same team, Russia can defend Stalingrad from Japan, and Sweden can invade Alaska, and you’re saying we should implement asymmetrical balance because it reflects IRL?

Sure thing. Call me when WT is so thoroughly transformed, and I’ll support that idea, too.

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Ah it is another of bingo checks that will be brought up, like “muh in real life air was dominating so it is balanced”.

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I will never, ever understand how people who claim to love realism so much, fail to see how little of it is there in WT.

Just in the ongoing major war (will not go into details about it because I want to stay on topic) we see how effective air defence has led to more and more “spray and pray” tactics by pilots that, quite understandably, would like to make it back home alive. So do we implement that? Does the instructor take over your plane and disengage when you’re about to pull a nearly-suicidal maneuver? 😛

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Of corse there is no point to even argue with such people, they don’t do that in good faith but rather try to gaslight people who don’t like this aspect of the game.

Battlefield (3 and 4 as I played them the most), were perfect example on how to make things somehow balanced, as there was limit to how much air units could be in air at the same time and then all other units (even infantry) had ways to defend (attack) against such units (like anti-air weaponary being in some locations on the battlefield). But then we have WarThunder in which in order to even have a slightest chance You have to change the vechicle, which results in death (and that is a penalty).

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no I dont get it, you are playing a war game but you don’t like to get attacked… why you dont go to play sims?

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Oh yes, because it is normal that You are being attacked by something that You can’t defend against. This is what a true balance is.

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Thats the main purpose of Planes and Helicopters, attacking certain vehicles that cant return fire properly.

Thats also another reason why nations produced Sam systems or Spaas.

Also Tank Rb is actually called combined arms so technically you will face aircrafts and helicopters wether you like it or not.

Again.

Things are not supposed to be unbalanced. At the moment air units are there as revange mechanism and nothing more really. People get frustrated that they are not good enough in tanks so they need advantage in order to do anything.

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Last time i checked Sam systems can counter air vehicles effectively but then again any competetive Air player will make anything obsolete.

Thats simply untrue.

İn order to access to fully loaded Cas plane you need to perform at certain level which actually makes you good player.

Without enough points you cant jump into Cas plane, same can be say for Helicopters even tho they require less points.

You know whats funny? You can actually bring Air Superiority by using much less spawn points compare to Cas plane, its one of the most effective way to stop and destroy them.

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And that is the whole issue, there is no alternative for people wanting to play tanks

You can jump into CAS plane / heli (in most cases) by just capping a zone with reserve tank, so sorry, that is not something increadible.

And You know what is funny? Some people would like to just play tanks.

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As i said before you’re playing combined arms so you have to deal with any sort of threat wether you like it or not.

İf you’re abuser then sure, but then again most people at top tier actually brings their favourite top tier tank in first spawn. So this claim is simply half true in terms practise.

Again you’re playing combined arms, not tanks mode only. This situation has always been the same ever since gaijin introduced combined arms.

Sorry but game is supposed to be balanced. Trying to justify unbalance is like saying that there are no unbalanced vechicles because ‘you have to deal with any sort of threat wether you like it or not.’

lmao

  1. This is a tactic that has nothing to do with abuse
  2. This game is not all about top tier

This is why people are asking for Tanks Only mode or an option like with night battles to join the que for people who just want TO.

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This game represents a fictional world war scenario where all nations trying to use their all avaliable vehicles, at least trying.

İt is actually abuse just like how Heli players were abusing first spawn with insane unguided rockets, do i need to remind you that gaijin actually had to take actions for that?

Most situations you complained about actually happens at high tiers, especially helicopter situations, so you were actually reffering high tier gameplay.

So what you’re basically saying is you dont have enough skills jump into air vehicles in order counter enemy planes or helicopters? Well well have the table turns, using your Logic it seems like tankers like you are also not good at certain sections in this game.

For tanks only mode, im not against that idea since some people prefers different options compare to others but then again Gaijin clearly showing us they do intent to combine all forces into one thing, and that is so called “Combined Arms”.