Honestly no idea. I don’t remember why I said that as it’s nearly 2 years ago, but it’s now definitely a trash aircraft. I despise it now lol
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good climb, until 2000m, because the 190 As don’t have a supercharger
Lol
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No idea where you got that opinion.
You might want to read:
The supercharger was rather basic in the early models, using a single-stage two-speed design directly geared to the engine (unlike the DB 601’s hydraulically clutched version) which led to rather limited altitude performance, in keeping with its intended medium-altitude usage. One key advancement for the 801 was the Kommandogerät (command-device), a mechanical-hydraulic unit that automatically adjusted engine fuel flow, propeller pitch, supercharger setting, mixture and ignition timing in response to a single throttle lever, dramatically simplifying engine control.[1] The Kommandogerät could be considered to be a precursor to the engine control units used for many vehicles’ internal combustion engines of the late 20th and early 21st centuries.
From here:
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It was hard to watch the 190 just “rate” the shit out of the D30… by the third fight, it had already taken on an air of inevitability… just nothing at all the Mustang could do but slightly alter the speed at which it died.
In the Mustang’s grace, it was really out of its element (it likes going downhill with lots of altitude to burn and keeping speed at 500 km/h or so. Here, it couldnt burn any more so rip).
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P-51 can win the fight but it has to fly more horizontal lines and spend minimal amount of time near vertical. P-51 wing at low speeds is just kind of doo-doo. At the same time, most people that complain about Fw-190 flight model do not ever take advantage of its full potential.
It’s not particularly great in Air RB but it’s also not exactly as useless as others make it out to seem. It’s just very mid at most BRs.
If you read the forums you’ll see similar threads; there were two fairly recently about it and the Ta-152 that were AI generated and end up referencing even older threads that have bad information.
just wished the FW190As and Fs could turn as well as they did IRL they gave early spits a run for there money especially considering at certain speeds they turned better
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They really didn’t though. Fw-190 turn rate was pretty mediocre IRL.
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Do you have a physical reason for why this would be the case? The 190’s wing loading is poor. It is to my knowledge this would heavily limit its ability to pull.
I think it’s an issue of semantics/definitions.
In the video I linked earlier discussing Fw190s for sim - the content creator makes it a point to draw attention to the distinction of agility and raw turning performance.
Another point is high speeds and the fact that our pilots can sit on 6G+ indefinitely if aced (and with expert 5/5, at around 5.8 or so). Other flight sims have you start blacking out pretty quickly if you try to do the same thing in spitfires as you do in Warthunder.
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It’s MkVb vs MkVc so wingshape is different, but that doesn’t change the effects of G-forces. I dont have the the Vc.
Rather notably, even if you do pass out in WT you retain some degree of control (and with trimmers, full control. You can trim max up-pitch and keep turning with a vegetable in the cockpit) and awareness and it resolves relatively quickly. Il2 it speaks for itself.
Also since I cannot pull 11G reliably without spinning myself to death, here’s an example of WT’s G-tolerance in my mustang instead:
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Genuinely no. They were extremely maneuverable mostly in terms of roll rate. Any 190 pilot that would dare turn with a Spit was a pure idiot and would be a damn fool. And yes I’m talking reality. They didn’t “turn better at speed” the maintained maneuverability at high speeds, but outturning a Spit? I would need like 5 firsthand sources to back that up if i were to even entertain that, considering how often I hear the general consensus of “unmatched roll, amazing speed, low/mid alt performance, turn radius very large compared to contemporaries.”
Because Eric Brown said so (despite being on the opposing side/an enemy). The excerpt is from his book, Wings of the Luftwaffe
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Okay now please explain what an aileron turn is.
It looks like gaijin has planned to add a flap nerf too.
In this post:
You see (i used auto-translation) that a player has noticed that the flap retraction time was multiplied by the factor 3 whilst playing on the dev server…
They didn’t clap spitfires by turning tighter than them, far from it, they were just more agile in roll and able to escape from a spitfires due to their superior dive and zoom and being able to just reverse immelmann without the spit being able to follow, but by all known data they never outturned Spitfires, this article just proves that some guy had the subjective experience that they “turned better” whatever he means with that, cause he sure can’t mean turning circle or time. Here’s a result of an actual flight test conducted with captured fw-190:
This was in the datamines for the initial dev server release yes, that’s gonna be a real nerf to them.
But tbh they do deploy unnaturally quick as they are right now, compared 90% of other flaps in the game with similar configuration.
am sure Fw 190 A and Fw 190 D they both use same flaps but the Fw 190 D not good like before they are made to be good high alt fighters.
Why the Fw 190 keep getting bad changes??? 😭💔💔
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Not sure if you actually understood what this nerf means for wt - besides the lack of compression at very high speeds the abiltity to deploy flaps quick before a high speed head-on (resulting in the ability to perform snap shots on enemies after dodging their first bullets / shells) was basically their main strength.
I am fully aware of the abilities of Fw 190s irl - but this doesn’t change the fact that Fw 190 FMs are artificially nerfed by gaijin.
Thx for the data mine confirmation!