In GRB and Sim EC, I think the Me 210 is way more user-friendly than the Me 410. Unlike the 410, the 210 actually has functional wing hardpoints, so you can carry four extra SC 50 bombs under the wings on top of the two SC 250s in the bomb bay. Drop them right and you can even destroy heavy tanks. It’s honestly better for CAS.
The Fw 189C can also carry SC 50 bombs, so if you have the skill to land direct hits on tanks, I think it’s quite usable up to BR 4.3 GRB.
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except other ones already a premium so lets have this one as a tech tree then
It’s a shame I can only like this post once.
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Thanks.
But without playing frequently playing BR 3.3(but Rank III planes) exclusively in Air RB it is rather easy for any gaijin employee to come to the wrong conclusions - the BR setting of gaijin is just the most obvious place for that.
Regarding the rare Fw 189 A-1:
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Every 5-600 matches you see a full downtier to 2.3 and meet a battle hardened vet in a Fw 189 A-1 smoking 3-5 enemy fighters with just 2 offensive 7,92mm MGs whilst the plane is able to outturn 3.3 I-16s.
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But - the plane is no serious threat for any experienced pilot as it is way to slow, underpowered and most of his opponents have heavier HMGs and 20mm cannons (ShVaks start at 2.0, same as Hisoano in P-400). And in opposition to real fighters the LER and MER is pathetic. A single hit with 12,7 or 20 mm disassembles the elevator granting you a kill.
Regarding German prop premium aircraft:
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That gaijin has serious issues with a competitive BR setting of German TT aircraft up to Rank IV is not secret. What i do not understand is that they do this even for premium aircraft and hurt their own income due to this approach.
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When i see that the Italian TT offers a German Rank III strike aircraft at BR 2.3 (Romanian HS 129 with better armament and payload) or the US a BR 2.3 fighter (XF5F - not bad) at Rank III (=both allow BP tasks and 2nd stage daily tasks) the advertised Fw 189 C at Rank I will end up as hangar queen.
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Based on ~ 30,000 Air RB battles at WW 2 BRs i would even claim that besides the BR 3.0 captured Yak-1B and the BR 5.7 Do 335 B-2 spending GEs (or buying a pack) for German premiums is a waste of money as all others are seriously outperformed either in flight characteristics or armament - or both.
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We can argue about the 3.0 Rank II Bf 109 T-2, the P-47 (without bombs) or even the Ju 288, but the first needs well trained pilots and the third saw countless open and hidden nerfs over the years.
In general:
Some premium planes have potential either by lowering the BR (like the 2 Fw 190s) or by granting the same 2 km air superiority fighter spawn like the UK/US night fighters (Ta 154 & He 219) but it looks like that players don’t care about competitiveness in Air RB as long as the planes can be used in Ground RB.
So as long as players don’t realize that voting with their wallets is their most powerful tool to convince gaijin to rethink their approach regarding German props nothing will change…
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Its a known measure by Gajin. German Panzer IV and some Stug models are also just rank II to make them simply meh to play. While foreign IV’s and Stugs are offered as rank III units. The< really hate German TT. You have tons of 3.7 and even 4.0 German units, which are still stuck with rank II. Despite that high br.
I’d like to have rank III planes at 2.3 BR as well. But for Germany thats obviously unthinkable.
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its almost as ugly as the amount of premium spam every update
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Incorrect, revshare doesn’t preclude adding them to the tech tree, for reference here the two I remember:
He 177
Bv 138
Also, some cockpits from tech tree vehicles were community made:
He 111
Po-2
The Wiki has a selected list, which shows a bunch of premiums, some event, and the above-mentioned tech tree additions.
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Uhu = owl, not duckling. I suppose for this new 189 C, will you add more payloads for it & the 189 A-1 since a bunch of their ordnance is missing? For example, it should have the SD 2, SC 10, SD 50, SD 70, AB 70, & S 125:
Achchewallie, that copy/paste piece of junk definitely does not count since it is a foreign, post-war rotorcraft, not an aircraft, WW2 vehicle, or German
They can keep the A-1 as premium as long as they give us the most produced model, the Fw 189 A-2 for the free tech tree:
Gaijin we are all still waiting for a Fw 189 A-2. Furthermore, someone should also make a suggestion for the Fw 189 A-4:
I do not know if that was deliberate or gaijin is just completely ignorant regarding the Hummel, but mark my words: IF the soviets ever receive a captured Hummel in this game, it will, by default, be superior to the very early model Hummel that gaijin stuck us (Germany) with:
We actually have two:
This is strictly a (nerf) problem with the game which has been reported time & time again without result. Look here:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/BUdlMHt7nbsV
Anyway, now that this competitor to the Hs 129 has been introduced to this game, will the Hs 129 itself be corrected to reflect its superiority over the Fw 189 C? For example, where is its missing ordnance such as the quad MG 17 pod, MG 131, MK 101, ETC 50 wing rack, SD 2, SD 4, SC 10, SD 50, SD 70, AB 250, Flam C 250, & SC 250 bombs?:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/j7nqjr6DiUjP
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ae4ykjOjU0T6
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/MfwtIlBj3EuG
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/bGebDdDe3a5I
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Not the first time for germany😶
But you know, the Fw 189C doesn’t really give off much of a “Uhu” vibe to me. It can’t fight at night, and it’s not capable of that kind of aerial combat where an owl hunts bats. “Uhu” is a nickname that suits the He 219 perfectly.
The animal that immediately came to mind when I first saw the Fw 189C was a Goose. So, “Gans(Rotgans)”. Geese are a size larger than ducks and a bit uglier.
Don’t you think the Goose rugged, chunky beak looks just like Armored Cabin?
I think the situation would change dramatically if the 3.7 cm Pzgr.18 APHE round were added to the ammunition options for the BK 37 gun pod.
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