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Thanks.
But without playing frequently playing BR 3.3(but Rank III planes) exclusively in Air RB it is rather easy for any gaijin employee to come to the wrong conclusions - the BR setting of gaijin is just the most obvious place for that.
Regarding the rare Fw 189 A-1:
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Every 5-600 matches you see a full downtier to 2.3 and meet a battle hardened vet in a Fw 189 A-1 smoking 3-5 enemy fighters with just 2 offensive 7,92mm MGs whilst the plane is able to outturn 3.3 I-16s.
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But - the plane is no serious threat for any experienced pilot as it is way to slow, underpowered and most of his opponents have heavier HMGs and 20mm cannons (ShVaks start at 2.0, same as Hisoano in P-400). And in opposition to real fighters the LER and MER is pathetic. A single hit with 12,7 or 20 mm disassembles the elevator granting you a kill.
Regarding German prop premium aircraft:
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That gaijin has serious issues with a competitive BR setting of German TT aircraft up to Rank IV is not secret. What i do not understand is that they do this even for premium aircraft and hurt their own income due to this approach.
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When i see that the Italian TT offers a German Rank III strike aircraft at BR 2.3 (Romanian HS 129 with better armament and payload) or the US a BR 2.3 fighter (XF5F - not bad) at Rank III (=both allow BP tasks and 2nd stage daily tasks) the advertised Fw 189 C at Rank I will end up as hangar queen.
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Based on ~ 30,000 Air RB battles at WW 2 BRs i would even claim that besides the BR 3.0 captured Yak-1B and the BR 5.7 Do 335 B-2 spending GEs (or buying a pack) for German premiums is a waste of money as all others are seriously outperformed either in flight characteristics or armament - or both.
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We can argue about the 3.0 Rank II Bf 109 T-2, the P-47 (without bombs) or even the Ju 288, but the first needs well trained pilots and the third saw countless open and hidden nerfs over the years.
In general:
Some premium planes have potential either by lowering the BR (like the 2 Fw 190s) or by granting the same 2 km air superiority fighter spawn like the UK/US night fighters (Ta 154 & He 219) but it looks like that players don’t care about competitiveness in Air RB as long as the planes can be used in Ground RB.
So as long as players don’t realize that voting with their wallets is their most powerful tool to convince gaijin to rethink their approach regarding German props nothing will change…
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Its a known measure by Gajin. German Panzer IV and some Stug models are also just rank II to make them simply meh to play. While foreign IV’s and Stugs are offered as rank III units. The< really hate German TT. You have tons of 3.7 and even 4.0 German units, which are still stuck with rank II. Despite that high br.
I’d like to have rank III planes at 2.3 BR as well. But for Germany thats obviously unthinkable.
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its almost as ugly as the amount of premium spam every update
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Incorrect, revshare doesn’t preclude adding them to the tech tree, for reference here the two I remember:
He 177
Bv 138
Also, some cockpits from tech tree vehicles were community made:
He 111
Po-2
The Wiki has a selected list, which shows a bunch of premiums, some event, and the above-mentioned tech tree additions.
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Uhu = owl, not duckling. I suppose for this new 189 C, will you add more payloads for it & the 189 A-1 since a bunch of their ordnance is missing? For example, it should have the SD 2, SC 10, SD 50, SD 70, AB 70, & S 125:
Achchewallie, that copy/paste piece of junk definitely does not count since it is a foreign, post-war rotorcraft, not an aircraft, WW2 vehicle, or German
They can keep the A-1 as premium as long as they give us the most produced model, the Fw 189 A-2 for the free tech tree:
Gaijin we are all still waiting for a Fw 189 A-2. Furthermore, someone should also make a suggestion for the Fw 189 A-4:
I do not know if that was deliberate or gaijin is just completely ignorant regarding the Hummel, but mark my words: IF the soviets ever receive a captured Hummel in this game, it will, by default, be superior to the very early model Hummel that gaijin stuck us (Germany) with:
We actually have two:
This is strictly a (nerf) problem with the game which has been reported time & time again without result. Look here:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/BUdlMHt7nbsV
Anyway, now that this competitor to the Hs 129 has been introduced to this game, will the Hs 129 itself be corrected to reflect its superiority over the Fw 189 C? For example, where is its missing ordnance such as the quad MG 17 pod, MG 131, MK 101, ETC 50 wing rack, SD 2, SD 4, SC 10, SD 50, SD 70, AB 250, Flam C 250, & SC 250 bombs?:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/j7nqjr6DiUjP
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ae4ykjOjU0T6
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/MfwtIlBj3EuG
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/bGebDdDe3a5I
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Not the first time for germany😶
But you know, the Fw 189C doesn’t really give off much of a “Uhu” vibe to me. It can’t fight at night, and it’s not capable of that kind of aerial combat where an owl hunts bats. “Uhu” is a nickname that suits the He 219 perfectly.
The animal that immediately came to mind when I first saw the Fw 189C was a Goose. So, “Gans(Rotgans)”. Geese are a size larger than ducks and a bit uglier.
Don’t you think the Goose rugged, chunky beak looks just like Armored Cabin?
I think the situation would change dramatically if the 3.7 cm Pzgr.18 APHE round were added to the ammunition options for the BK 37 gun pod.
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Panzer IV/70 is a duck?
wow over year one year not even knowledge they will never be seen.
i don’t understand is their a point of bug reporting tank / plane anymore?
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Not unless it’s to buff a modern Russian vehicle tbh. WW2 is just gonna rot 😭 my suggestion for an early Sd.Kfz.251/9 got denied and now I have to find out why!
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they already did so many bug reports for WWII and missing bombs / guns don’t get see it’s only focus bug fix for high tier.
i don’t understand why mr snail in each update can’t fix some of them in updates or it’s fixed.
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Or to nerf anything else not from the USSR/RF - here are no era limitations - flap nerf of P-47s is just one example…
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Waiting for the Stugs to get their machine gun modifications. Would also be nice to see the MG for the Stummel too.
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Sorry bro - i play just aircraft, but i hope that your hope is not just delayed disappointment…
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I only preform well in the IAR-81C. I have a few clips in it and that’s it because I suck in all other air craft. Can’t send them tho because Xbox but them in the wrong format.
Waiting since my day one in this game to fix the muzzlebreak of the Stug III Ausf. G. They corrected it on the italian one when they copy-pasted it but not on the german one. Lazy, lazy Mr. Snail.
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Italy is just built different I guess.
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As i meet frequently a very good pilot using the IAR 81 C with a joystick (in Air RB) i am aware of that the plane is not even remotely as bad as described by DEFYN - the plane needs speed and altitude to work with but can be quite nasty to fight if you meet such guys.
Rest behind a spoiler as imho off-topic:
I strongly recommend to buy the for xbox certified HOTAS from Thrustmaster if you are really interested in aerial combat. Without the artificial limitations of mouse aim flying with simplified flight controls and disabled instructor slides a lot of aircraft become real beasts.
Main downsides of using a stick: No point & click and no head-ons; the artificial mouse aim stabilization puts you in a severe disadvantage.
Main upside: Depending on the used aircraft turn performance increases significantly. Planes which benefit massively: SM 92 and C-3604.
But if you want to play Germany: Nothing better than the BR 2.7 C-3604. You need some experience to make it work (and MEC) but you are able to delete any Yak you meet in a turnfight - and even Spitfires and the actually better turning Hurricanes can’t shake you off if you end up behind them.
I upgraded my German crew slot to lev 75 with it in a few weeks - main downside is the rather low rip speed, so at least 40 of my 80 deaths were due to overspeeding, but i sit on 1,929 air kills vs 80 deaths…
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