if it could carry 16 akd 9s that would be nice but it cant even do that. I only use z10 for anti air, otherwise z19 is better for ground attack imo
yea but the z10 rly need faster agm
Im praying that this gets addressed soon within this update. The Z-10 currently sits as one of the more underwhelming attack helicopters, and we know that Gajjin is currently holding onto more advanced weapons in the files such as the CM-502. My guess is that they will soon give China a more Advanced version of the Z-10, to match other nations.
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Don’t trust it, even they are reported on the new issue report web, unless u’d like to wait at least 3 years to get them…
They said in thunder show, like 3 weeks ago, that there is not enough helis with fire and forget atgms yet (i forgot in what context they said it), so im assuming more missiles will come.
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Could you link which one, just so I can see? Regardless tho, we already know the CM-502 and some other Chinese heli missiles are in the files, so Im very confident that they will come later, I think Gajjin want to move ground up first tho
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I cannot find it… But lets hope we will get new missiles soon, or even new versions of Z-10 or helicopters for other nations (As a chinese main i do not accept anything else then Z-10). By the way, did you know there is an option to mount 25mm cannon? Changhe Z-10 - Wikipedia.
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I’m not sure, maybe the devs forgot about it, which is usually the case when they release a vehicle for a minor nation and they conveniently decide not to fix it anymore…
I think if the Z-10 got all the realistic features, it would stand shoulder to shoulder with the likes of the Ka-52 or Mi-28NM
@Smin1080p is there any reason the devs have yet to give the Z-10 its HMD? are they wating for later additions of the Z-10 or do they feel it would be to powerful with the feature?
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ty90 is strong but so is the aim9m on ah1z which does have hmd. I dont see why not. Besides its not nearly as game changing for a helicopter since you can easily pivot your chopper in the direction of enemy
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Unfortunately I dont think china employs high speed salcos missiles on their heli so we will always be limited to laser homing and ir. Which in warthunder are generally less efficient
There are fire and fire and forget options for Chinese helicopters, and even millimeter wave missiles I believe
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I think if they could also tweak or fix the IOG mechanic on top down missiles when you turn off the laser, it could be a stop-gap buff to the weakness on the current BA-9/AKD-9/AKD-10.
At least on paper, the missile should travel to the last known lase when you turn it off, so if people decide to pop smoke, you can turn off the laser before the smoke expands, therefore allowing you to “shoot” into smoke. It would also offer good utility to fire and forget against stationary targets (such as tanks camping a strong point or SPAA) if the missile actually went to the last lased position.
While you still can’t shoot into treelines and fully expanded smoke, I feel like it would add some level of buff that wouldn’t be gamebreaking if Gaijin absolutely refuses to add F&F missiles for the Z-10 (and other helicopters)
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I imagine the devs are so reluctant to add the Z-10/Z-19’s better missiles (F&F) because I’m not seeing any similar missiles the Ka-52 can carry. The devs are stuck thinking China is mini-Russia and their equipment cannot be as powerful or stronger. Look at how they gutted our TY-90, can’t even kill a Russian heli with it, need to be ~2km to lock a heli, and these can even be flared reliably by the Tornado and A-10’s.
Also, what did they do to the AKD-9’s? I’m seriously struggling to kill anything with it. Even Abrams are taking multiple hits to the side or UFP without dying.
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I personally think the TY-90s are quite fun to use in its current state (you can surprise a lot of jets not paying attention), but I don’t know if it’s supposed to be better or worse compared to how it is in real life. I do agree though, that it is quite frustrating to fight other helicopters: I am currently terrified to fight Tiger UHTs, Tiger HADs, A-129Ds, Ka-50s, Ka-52s, and Mi-28NMs (with emphasis on the latter two) because they can simply fire a F&F missile at you and hide, or they could just out shoot you with Vikhrs.
The Z-10 currently feels pretty mediocre overall, and it would be nice to see it become better. The lack of a modern RWR (I would even argue that it’s the old RWR model from before the RWR rework) is simply hilarious to me because it’s egregiously telling about the vehicle being neglected by Gaijin.
z10 is definitely inferior to other top tiers in ground attack. akd10s can be fun if you really finesse them but it only carries 8. rwr is in desperate need of an update though, i agree.
HMD is a topic for tiger aswell and so far it was on suggestion levle
from what i know of, later z-10 variants can carry the cm502kg
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was found in the files a while ago actually
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