Further additions of the Z-10

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First Gaijin pulls the 4.52kg explosive mass from an unknown source, now they don’t even trust their own code

At this point anything is possible based on whatever they decide to make up

Also I did try to get the abysmal Z-10ME RWR (along with other Chinese helicopters) reviewed again via bug report but they straight up rejected their own source they used from when they initially improved the Chinese helicopter RWR so I’m pretty certain they just want to keep things the way they are for their arbitrary balance decision.

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The overpressure formula for CM502KG has obvious errors. During the live broadcast, Mr. bvvd even used a truck as a target for the CM502KG, indicating that the production team might be aware of this issue but has not made any response or changes. We players have reason to suspect that the production team is deliberate and is targeting the CM502KG missile.

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Which is the issue, IIRC bug reports do not accept datamined info as is

Well I mean we did say: This doesn’t look right cause the other SAP HE with similar explosive index can do a kill in the same place. But then they said u need to have sources, which is not correct because the point of the datamined info is just there to say: hey this is an ingame issue, nothing to do with IRL.

Added to z10me:
Firesnake 70a in 7 round pods, can also go on inner pylons

Now it appears that the CM502KG is pure HE instead of SAP-HE

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I have no idea if this makes the missile worse or better

doesnt do anything, just tested it now, 6 missles at 6 different MBTs, and 5 out of 6 did absolutely no damge, only one killed the tank by hitting its commander optics by luck

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yall unaware but gaijin sneakly nerfed rwr instead of atleast bring it up to alr400 lvl

The official attitude towards the issues with CM502KG is extremely perfunctory, with the vast majority being labeled as ‘not a bug’ or merely restating the issue content, which is a complete display of indifference. It seems that the development team has already decided to go their own way, which completely goes against the original intention of the game forum. Gaijin needs to reflect!

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The CM502KG’s ballistic has significant issues; why does the LMUR, which has the same type of warhead as the CM502KG, have excellent ballistics and a large angle of incidence, while the CM502KG has a very, very small angle of incidence, with the HE warhead aiming directly at the main armor of the tank?

Can confirm, RWR was slightly nerfed

Live server:
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Dev server:
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Looks like it’s no longer identical to the AN/APR-39(V)1 on the AH-1Fs but it has overall less bands of detection now (at this point in time, the Z-10ME RWR is LESS capable than the AH-1F’s RWR now - a helicopter from the 1970s)
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I’m honestly not sure what criteria or metric the devs use to determine how PLA helicopters’ avionics perform.

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it went from worthless to worthless
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/nsJgCsKRTJOU
the LMUR even gets to have magic speed out of fucking nowhere because it is ruzzian so it gets to

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for now…
until IRIS-T is modelled with its true DLIRCCM


the fire snakes are there, it seems to me that the first Z10 in the tree is also capable of firing them and the big rocket x19 pods are still missing for the FS70 rocket

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I’ve had decent success using it when manually pitching up ~45° before firing giving it a much higher loft, kills MBT’s that aren’t covered in ERA almost 100% of the time

I didn’t get a screenshot before they changed it to HE but compared to a rocket of about the same weight and speed with a 11kg SAP-HE warhead the CM-506 does less damage for some reason


I would rather have gotten the larger rocket pods

If Guided Rockets could 1st spawn they’d have a niche, but they don’t and are kinda useless, neat to have I guess