French to German players about Swiss ground

i am waiting for the day China gets their abrams and watching that shitshow unfold

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It’s definitely frustrating, but it’s probably one of the best ways to anger as few people as possible. But so far it’s just created copy paste lines.

If technology was derived from a nation they should be able to get it. Where if it’s unrelated it should be filling a gap that was needing to be filled.

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Just had a match vs. Italy and Sweden…Leopards on all sides…man this is so bleep. And it’ll be worse when France gets its Leopards, Britain, Poland one day, Turkey…what a mess. Especially when Sweden gets our A7 and A8 I quit this game for good.

at least sweden falls out of favour now and will only get shit from now on, just gets traded with italy now

Sweden will get the new Danisch and Norwegian Leopards, so they get whatever Germany might get. Same for Italy via Hungary. The new Rheinmetall Panther will probably also end up in Italian tree, most likely imho. Despite this Ger tank will be probably one of the most powerful ones ingame.

norwegian yeah, but 2a8 is far in the future, the 2a7 era is ours now for now

So far I only want one Leopard and it’s for two very specific reasons. If it wasn’t the case I wouldn’t be asking for it.

I can definitely understand where you’re coming from. Although there’s already a Turkish skin for the premium 2A4. The 2PL is already in Germany as well.

the problem is you are alone with that one, there is multiple french players wo are demanding the singapore Leopard 2 SG as well

the fact that it finaly got 3rd gen thermals is a blessing

the turkish skin series is the main reason i think a tree wont come any time soon

That’s absolutely bizarre. I understand that Singapore is a defense ally but that feels like a stretch.

If it’s a 2A7 that does feel strange for France to get it. The RUAG is at least built off of the 2A4.

17 Leo 2A7 were upgraded to 2A7A1 for the VJTF in 2021. Germany declined to upgrade any more Leopards to that standard. In the middle of 2023, Germany decided to replace the 16 Leopard 2A6s given to Ukraine with new 2A8s. Germany never upgraded straight away to the 2A8 because it didn’t exist then.

Regardless, it makes more sense to give Switzerland to Germany and Belgium to France.
(Or create a combined Belgium-Swiss faction lol.)

Had to check my bad, it is the british that are demanding the Leo 2 SG because it is an old colony of them, but you see where this leads, everyone is demanding leopards for their own tree

those were mostly for testing of the system

I still don’t like how black and white that is. I don’t want all of Belgium’s inventory especially if there’s a bunch of German equipment we don’t have any use for.

It would make sense for Germany to get the Cockerill equipped Leopard and modernized Jagdpanzer.

That’s even more bizarre. The U.K has the Vickers Mk.7.

VJTF is NATO Very High Readiness Joint Task Force. You dont use test vehicles for your best, most combat ready troops. Especially considering Germany already has Readiness problemes. So no, its not a test vehicle.

maybe , but thats exactly how it is, besides that the SG is more like a PL so around 11.3 , which the switz leopard could end up as well

So you want to pick and choose. got it

The sad thing is that all getting German exported Leopards and get super diverse + op. While Germany don’t has access to e.g. swedish Leopard variants or other foreign tanks. Its so super dull.

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100%, the main reason I want Germany to get the Swiss Leopard variants, including the 140mm, is that it would provide some actual variety for the Leopards and offer a diffrent lineup unlike France at those BRs.

@MS_Phantasm for comparison the SG model Leopard 2 SG: Punching Above It's Weight