A lot of useless movements for what?
Why lower BR and nerf, they are still playing well, especially Somua
Cos what’s the point of reloading fast in 8.7 or 9.0? Tanks at this BR have quite fast reload speed anyway.
So maybe indeed it’s useless movement, and so some French tanks could get just a canon stabiliser as a buff perhaps?
Having played and spaded most of the tanks listed in the OP… Ehh, nah. I think they are fine.
The super fast reload makes up for the downfalls, the char25t is definitely in a stupid place but the rest all felt fine at 7.7.
I actually prefer the 50/100 and lorraine to the Surbiasse myself simply due to size, even though the large autoloader capacity on the subiasse is very nice.
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No, the BRs of those vehicles should stay where they are.
They’re borderline OP as is, they don’t need to become literally OP.
@Valehar
Char 25t would be OP again at 7.7, they are not over-BR’d. The devs are aware that they are NOT over-BR’d. They’re high-speed APCBC firing beasts.
BR balancing applies to French tanks.
If you have a skill issue with Char 25t, that’s not the BR.
@RAYhill
They can’t fire HEAT, and if they could and were given it they’d have to go up in BR.
7.7 is fine but the AMX-50s need their 20mms due to the influx of helis and 30 year younger rat vehicles that resulted from Gaijin glossing over the cold war
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… How. The foch has a 19s reload, the Surbaisse has a 6s. The foch is fixed arc with a poor arc and mediocre traverse. The ‘armor’ advantage of the foch is still pennable by every 400 pen HEAT round you will see. You can be overpressured through the large rangefinder. Your side armor is absurdly weak and AA can pen you at 60 degrees with no difficulty. I’d take the obj 268 at 7.0 over the foch any day.
The point of reloading quickly is that you can track a moving tank and follow up a shot before they can slew a turret. Or hit the engine and then the side. Or follow up a shot that disabled a turret before they can retreat. the 50-100 has almost double the fire rate of most 8.7 tanks.
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while the 20mms are great in theory, the amx30 has shown gaijin will do anything they can to nerf it. 4/5 HE shells means its nearly useless vs even lightly armored tanks.
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I mean, some gun better than no gun
If they’re are good at their BR, why the fuck 7.7 lineup is getting uptiered at almost every single game compared to 7.3 or lower?
And if they’re so good, why are they so little played or praised?
Like, I love them, but there must be reasons~ I’m all ears for tips too if you don’t mind anyway
If they weren’t played they wouldn’t get uptiered as often.
And praise is usually silent.
What about my first question? Does playing most of the games at 8.7 instead of 7.7 mean to play in a different way? If yes? Which one?
I mean I play the same cautious-aggression regardless of the BR.
Uptier means I have 4 players and they have 4 players, and the rest are within my BR, and all targets are to be taken seriously regardless.
If I come across a particularly nasty target, that’s what I keep teammates around for.
Uptiers are not a curse
Okay, so I always thought uptier meant that you were the most lower tank of your team, lol~
Also, do you have tips? Should we play agressive, or more like camping a spot?
Cos for now what most of games look like: spaws, drive s1 min, dies xD
Nah. Gaijin nerfin HVAP makes it useless. You try and kill a bmp from the side and every single shell just shatters.
You are wrong. The only overtiered ones are the char 25 and the amx 50/90. Thr others are fine. Getting top of the team in an uptier is not hard at all. It’s my most played lineup for a reason.
The Surbaisse wouldn’t be undertiered at 7.3 IMO, but I agree.
The main issue with them is the terrible BR compression around their BR.
i’ve used that 20mm on other vehicles and its fine. The problem is that the belt you are forced to use is useless as its for anti-personel. If you could select coax belts (or it had a 50/50 belt) it would be rather useful.
The only really painful BR for France is 8.7 and to a lesser extent 8.3. pretty much everyone you face there is fully stabilised or at least has a couple stabilised tanks in the lineup. You have none. So you are a bit more limited in the playstyles available.
Eh, i’d disagree. You aren’t stabalized, but you get LRF and darts that are significantly better than almost any other nations. The Mephisto is also a great vehicle. SK-105 is above average light and the amx10 RC has been far more useful than i thought once i started using the hydraulics to get a ton of gun depression.
But yeah, you have to play fields with the lack of stab and are very mediocre in cities.
9.3 though… oof. Yeah, hard pass that one.
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That’s why I said it’s painful not bad. It sucks that you are limited to only hitting targets when stationary. Many of the damn urban maps gaijin loves so much become onplayable as anyone else will kill you before you can get gun on target. I love the amx 10rc as any other but having a stab would be fun.
9.3 is fun. You get the santal which is okay and can be used as a scout. And the amx 32 are also great while a bit slow. The VBCI they just added is kinda ass tho. 9.7 becomes great again with the vextra and amx-40.