Eh something new for finand or britain, looking for mid br jets honestly since they are just neat imo. Gnat or Hawk, or phantom 1 would be cool. There are a ton of cool 8.0-9.7 jets id love to see.
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Im hoping for Hawks next update (september)
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It’s pretty funny that gaijin decide to make Alpha fight with M247, which even doesn’t have RWR, unless M247 is AFK, there is no chance for Alpha to approach it
Yeah my copium is low, knowing gaijin theyll be britain only for 2 or so updates which id rather not but i dont work for gaijin.
At first glance, there seemed to be no problem. At second glance, I couldn’t understand what you said about the BR adjustment. Air ground BR separation should not be based on air combat BR, evaluating a vehicle’s weapon configuration, adversarial configuration, flight performance, and then adding BR? What are you guys up to? F4J/K/M of 10.7? 10.3 MiG 21BIS? Are you guys joking? So many planes have considerable competitiveness in their BR under the current situation, and in the land battle, you directly landed so many for them? I completely don’t understand your thoughts. This is completely unbalanced. Taking the Chinese Science and Technology Tree’s attack aircraft A5L as an example, it has no difference in air combat performance compared to the 9.3 A5I, no countermeasures, poor machine guns, and less flight performance than the regular MiG 19. However, in terms of ground attack capability, you threw it directly to 10.7 due to its thermal imaging pod and two guided bombs? A plane with no countermeasures at all, at BR10.7? My understanding of air ground BR separation is that the A5L air combat BR should be reduced to 9.3 and the land combat BR should be increased to 10.0, while your understanding of air ground BR separation is that the land combat BR should fly up to 10.7 while the air combat BR is stationary. I don’t know what to say, but I think this system should be remade in the next version of the game, rather than added.
AMX is significantly faster than A-6E with an identical loadout, and is clearly surviving more.
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I’ve been doing CAS at 11.7 without RWR for over a year now.
That and most SPAA use optical locking.
Relying on RWR in ground RB is reckless and shouldn’t be done; always assume you’re locked and being engaged at all times.
Brother, the premium A6E-TRAM doesn’t have anything “insane” about it; it is literally a commercial plane that luckily became a “ground attack aircraft.” Its speed is mediocre when fully loaded, whether with GBUs or AIM-9L missiles. It is literally an easy target at BR 11.0 / 11.7 (a free kill), and it only has 6 AIM-9L missiles, which are reduced to just 2 if you use the ground attack loadout.
There is nothing insane about this plane, where the best strategy used by players is to equip 2 additional cannons on its wings and 2 AIM-9L missiles (because it doesn’t have cannons installed in its fuselage, nose, or wings). The plane is a stub that only does well because it attacks bots or catches a distracted player in a dogfight with another player from their team.
Buc S2B, has no guns. 2x Aim-9Ls (which replace 2x A2G hardpoints) and a similar flight model. The max guided weapons of the Buc S2B is 3 (with no A2A at all). It has no Thermal Tpod. A6E does need to go up. At least a little which 0.3 is a little
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What players want you to do:
reduce the air combat mode BR of attack aircraft that perform poorly in air combat, and slightly adjust the ground attack aircraft’s BR in ground combat while keeping the BR of the air fighter unchanged.
What you actually did:
crazy increase the attack aircraft BR in ground combat, crazy decrease the fighter’s BR, and almost no adjustment in air combat mode.
Very good, now we can see that in ground combat, the BR of F4s and MiG-23s is even lower than that of pure ground strike aircraft like A10 and Q5L. All ground strike aircraft will become meaningless flying insects in ground combat mode, while air superiority fighters will become versatile, capable of performing air superiority missions and conducting ground strikes.
Seriously, buddy, what are you guys thinking?!
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What’s the point of raising the BR of the SU-25SM3 to 12.7 when there is no 12.7 ground? I’m genuinely confused here.
Which is why I think we may get 12.7 ground next update:
Come on, I know you understand a lot about aviation and the matchmaking system in War Thunder. You have very high chances of getting matched 1.0 BR above or 1.0 BR below your current plane, and as you, I, and other players have experienced, 70% of the time you get matched 1.0 BR above your current plane. 11.7 is a BR where the A6E can’t evade, fight another fighter, escape radar missiles, or outdistance its enemies even without its pods. Tell me, brother, how do you think this BR isn’t insane for this aircraft? I literally GRINDED the entire American fighter line playing with the A6E, and I know very well what this “COMMERCIAL JET” is and isn’t capable of. There is simply no justification for it to go up to 10.7.
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Oh, by the way, such adjustments haven’t even solved the problem of attacking aircraft players suffering in air combat mode. Great, now no matter what mode it is, attacking aircraft have become the best feed for fighter jets.
Thanks! I missed that post, hoping decompression actually happens, some BRs are unbearable.
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No probs, its the only way these BR changes make any sense to me is IF we get some kind of BR9 and up decompression
That’s why so many SPAA players suffer and complain their SPAA useless
I have used the Gepard to get nuked many times, unless these guys know how to use T 6 1 to report the target location, radar is still the most reliable thing
Without RWR, any of diving is equal to suicide, when there is a radar spaa lock at you, especially for M247, even the helis are the same.
SPAA is more powerful than CAS at 9.0.
That’s the point, CAS should never be unkillable like they are at top BR.
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These jets shouldnt be engaging in A2A combat, thats kinda the point. A-6E should get slapped by a dedicated A2A jet. Though at the moment, Id say A-6E almost actually outperforms some nations dedicated CAP aircraft at 10.3 (Like the Sea Harrier)
But it should down to your teams SPAA or CAP to defend you. I know that rarely actually happens in a team game, but that is the fact. and 9Ls can be good. Doesnt take much to ruin the day of a CAS that hasnt seen you yet. If my theory is correct. Then this change wont actually change much for any the CAS. But if im wrong… Then it will suck, but it isnt hte only one sucking
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Fly thr F-4C, you’ll get use to having no CMs and being told its skill issue when you die.
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Yeah hopefully we get Rank 9 and some new SPAA to counter 12.7 CAS
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