Flakpanzer vs Ostwind II, Panther II E-100 etc

I know. This was said when Ostridge showed the original image.

The mobility of the T25 is only better in reverse. The Forwards acceleration is really poor, unironically on par or even worse than the M26’s in certain cases.

Also have to consider that the T25 now has 2 ready rounds, so once you fire 3 rounds your reload goes to 9.97 seconds with a fully maxed out loader, 12.96 with a fully stock one.

The 90 mm has far less pen drop.

For comparison, at point blank the Pzgr.39/42 APCBC round has 192 mm of pen, while M82 has 185 mm. At 500 meters, both rounds have 173 mm of penetration, and at 2 kilometers they have 126 mm and 140 mm of penetration respectively.

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Nah thats the corelian. The zerstörer is the quad mk103 tank

I am pretty sure I saw the prototype Ostwind II in a Museum in Canada, although not exactly sure in which one, as I visited multiple military museums there.

Also you can read about an interview with someone who actually was involved in the building of that prototype in Walter J Spielbergers Books “Der Weg zum Flak-Panzer Gepard. Die geschichtliche Entwicklung der deutschen Flugabwehrpanzer” and “Der Panzerkampfwagen IV und seine Abarten” (Both books feature the same “Interview”)

So yeah, a prototype of the Ostwind II was indeed built.

South Korea has so many vehicles to offer whoever gets them (or if they’re an independent tree), they have a lot of SPAA fit for War Thunder too.

I have made a topic about this thing few months ago

Someone actually confirmed for me that the image I sent is not the Zerstörer 45, it is a Wirbelwind with canvas coverings on the barrels. The barrels are apparrently too short to be the Zerstörer 45.

Also, is this a translated version of the actual shipping manifest?
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The pic you send is a wirbelwind but this is the gun of Zerstörer 45
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Ik that is the gun of the Zerstörer 45. Is that list of prototypes built a translated version of the original shipping manifest?

Mostly likely it is but not sure

The side-by side config of the Ostwind 2 always rankled me, because I remember reading that the Germans preferred the stacked configuration for that turret
And YES QUAD 30MM DEATH

Truer words have never been spoken on this subject. At this point their just gate keeping them. There is absolutely no reason they cant come back. Either through an event, or made premium.

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This!!!

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Which Flakpanzer are you talking about? The Flakpanzer I is in the game, and so is the Flakpazner IV (Ostwind, Wirbelwind). The Flakpanzer is a name for a general group of German SPAAs, so I don’t know if you are talking about the Gepard or the Roland or the Flakpanzer 38(t).

You replied to an old post but they meant this Flakpanzer 341 | War Thunder Wiki

Oh damn. I want that boy. I mean that is clearly a good SPAA…they should add it as a tech tree replacing the Zest. 45

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Why would it REPLACE the zerstroyer?

Uhh…Becuase the yak-9s would have trouble against the panther hull and the Zestorer won’t have to suffer. It’s just my opinion on tests drives so please don’t harass me.

If you want to discuss specific vehicles, please continue in Machinery of War section.