They could just make the APHE belt have an SP cost, like it does on aircraft. So if you want to counter tanks AND planes, you must pay extra.
Has it never ocurred to you to go look something up to see if it is true?
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Hmm. That’d be a fair middleground for the meantime in my honest opinion. The other option is a hard-cap on APHE ammo count like there is for APDS, ahistorical or not, but perhaps that’s too restrictive.
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That would be just arbitrary. We already have a mechanic to counter exactly this but on aircraft.
Fair point, indeed.
But it is APHE.
Not sure why Gaijin always gives SPAAs with auto cannon’s different type names than on single shot cannons.
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They should swap out the BR of kugel and 341. That’s it. I still don’t get why kugel is so high in BR.
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Oh you know, just the usual Gaijin " Shenanigans. "
It should probably also be noted that the players that do own the Flakpanzer 341 are most likely;
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Experienced/Veteran players (the vehicle was not removed yesterday afterall)
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Playing the game long enough to own it, while also still being active and interested enough to notice such a change and play it.
i.e. such players are likely going to be better than average and will, more often than not, know which spots to shoot at with the given penetration and - more importantly - know how to properly position themselves to get the most out of the vehicle.
As such, they’re naturally going to perform better than people are otherwise used to, regardless of whether the vehicle is actually broken or not.
E.g. just because I can consistently top-score using the Begleitpanzer’s fixed SAP round doesnt mean that the changes made it viable/broken. (its still really bad)
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I mean yeah, vehicles like it should be the last ones to get any updates.
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In this case it is. 87mm pen APHE, on a armoured chassis with great traverse rates and reload is OP. It’s just objectively better than the kugel in every way now, and that’s almost a full BE higher.
Just nerf the 341 in some way so that an OP tank isn’t gatekept to only veteran players. I don’t get why anyone who genuinely wants balance would not want this to be nerfed unless they want to keep their gatekept, OP, fake German tank.
Also gotta love people being quick to blame other players for dying under the guise of “anyone who dies to me flanking is bad.” Because surely my heavy tank shouldn’t be blinded, knocked out, and then blown up all in the span of 5 seconds because I met an SPAA that’s at a lower BR right?
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The Kugel doesn’t deserve 7.0 though.
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Actually I do think using the aircraft AP belt coat style increase would be an overall better solution for all AA.
Still I think it should go up in BR to atleast 6.7, and preferably the kugel should go down too.
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idk if this is right or not
In game:
In the calculator:
idk what to add, just a observation
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You forgot to tick “APCBC” option, and it would give you almost exact number as stated per stat card.
The round is APCBC with HE filler per bug report, thus APCBC modifier is to be included.
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Yeah it’s just not on the stat card.
Because apparently when you tell Gaijin to make 3-4 changes, they are just gonna change 1-2.
Im glad you at least agree to an extent that SPAAs being effective against basically everything is pure BS
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people complain about it alot nowadays (for some reason)
idk whats it about with the coelian being so good since a single shot in the turret wipes it out (i know it has aphe bellts but if you take out its turret with a single shot it shouldnt be to hard)
everyone in here uses spaa as anti tank at some point
just go and beg gaijin to remove every spaa high pen round and give all of them the same amount of penetration so the community can stop whining
most if not all SPAAs take one shot to take down
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I guess youve never played the game. spamcanons are the meta no matter what.
Give them only HE, no SAP, no APHE and certainly no APDS. they are for fighting aircraft not tanks
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I guess youve never played the game. spamcanons are the meta no matter what.
its good yes, played it myself and i must say im pretty amazed by how easy it is to kill people so it definitely needs to go up in br, no denying that
but then again, you play against people who keep shooting panthers at the hull and not the turret so ofc you wont kill the coelian with that and get killed in return since you gave your position away with a bad shot
Give them only HE, no SAP, no APHE and certainly no APDS. they are for fighting aircraft not tanks
i wouldnt mind that, but knowing the community
theres always people who complain about anything that happens
am sure they will change the Br to 7.0 if not higher but it’s not the only spaa that have good rounds like that
all of other spaa have the high pen rounds i don’t understand what’s the new thing about it?
AMD DCA have 110mm apds and falcon
and a reminder the community who choose to make APHE rounds still op not gajin !
it was good change to balance APHE we had one chance and sadly people worried about one shot kills and here we are now
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