Flakpanzer 341

They did it to themselves by not updating every tank’s armor model wholly to volumetric when they added the system. Many of the bugs stem from new shells not interacting right with the old armor models seen on a lot of machines even today.

There is no problem with SPAAGs being Ersatz TDs - if anything they help more than they harm. All the autocannon light tanks have a new thing to fear because of it. That being said, I would be in favor of increasing general SPAAG spawn cost to the same level the ZSU-57 is at.

But, when doing so:

  • un-nerf all remaining forced mixed belts on SPAAGs and some light tanks bearing the same guns
  • remove insultingly tiny 12 or 40-round limits on higher tier SPAAGs’ APFSDS or APDS rounds

Also it was apparently favored to use APDS rounds for AA duty due to higher velocity making less lead be required, both on rounds we have (35mm KDA) and ones we lack currently (APDS on the 20mm Vulcan).

Better still - have the base cost go up to ZSU-57 levels and stop pretending SPAAGs are mainly meant to kill planes already. People want to shoot tanks because its funny in the same way using overkill derp HE is. Current gameplay basically requires AAs be good at tankbusting to reach positions on the map relevant to intercepting CAS from, anyway.

Upping the base SP costs should however, come with the following two old nerfs being lifted:

  • Undoing the forced mixed belts for the handful of AA guns still having them (20mm German WW2 cannons, MK103 HVAP, Falcon APDS belt)
  • Removing the forced 12-round limit on the Otomatic and 40-round limits on 35mm Oerlikons for APFSDS and APDS, respectively.

Embrace the Ersatz TD mode instead of punishing it in any capacity. I will refuse to spawn an SPAAG if I can’t bring as much of the antitank ammo as I damn well please.

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doesnt that technically make them suggestable.
ALSO MORE REAL THAN OSTWIND II!!

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Sadly not, i already asked, as the Gerät 341 isnt unique to the Flakpanzer 341, since the guns were also planned as field mounts and on ships.

planned only though. not used?

Well only 4 were build for testing, so no. They didnt see any service.

hmmmm
so only 4 built, planned for flakpanzer 341 and naval mounts… but naval mounts dont have mockups even?

I suppose they were to replace the Flak 42. But i havent seen anything more detailed.

I have to admit that I’m confused by the definition of “unique” in this case.

Field mounts are no concern to us in WT because we only deal with vehicles.

Ships are a different matter but still we’re talking about a situation where no other vehicle that could possibly be featured in GRB would ever have access to those guns.

God I wish the rest of WT would just start following naval standards already.

Even tho it wouldnt (currently) find use to the game, its about the vehicle itself, as partial vehicles can be suggested and implemented if parts for it like hull or turret and such were build. However the guns arent counted towards the vehicle because they werent ONLY for the vehicle. I didnt do the rules, i was just told that by the suggestion mods.
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Personally I think they should give it HVAP and buff the pen on the Wirbelwind and Ostwind as well…

Honestly i kinda like the Flakpanzer 341 but it’s OP it should go to 6.7 and have it’s turret armor be made out of actuall wood or have it nerfed some other way

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i remember a source stating that horizontal turret drives were ordered to be made and delivered for this vehicle?

If you find that again, i guess it would be possible.

It’s far too OP, it should lose the Explosive shell and go to solid shot or decrease the pen.

This tank at 8.0 can still take out most medium tanks, it’s absolutely disgusting.
Totally ruining 6.3-7.3 games.

i think the rotation speed should be like panther, for balance

Balance? This would just make the vehicle useless… its an spaa.

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nah its a td

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Она разбирает даже ИС6М в фронтальную проекцию, какие проблемы на 6.7+?

It will become a poor SPAA. It should just lose the improvement it just received and stay at 6.3.