Thanks.
good
W should stay like that
11km guaranteed range, 12 max launch range
The problems won’t be only on Denmark, the problems will literally be on all small maps, because the new SAMs create literally 1/3 no-fly zones there.
They could’ve added a different SPAA for 10.7–12.3, and put the ITO on higher brackets. Damn, there’s already so much broken stuff in sim. Now there are hypersonic Su-24s flying to point I4, and half the bases can’t be bombed without a headache.
CCRP bomb tosses is your best bet.
Yeah, I share that concern too. Without proper symbology, longer ranges might not be possible in the Tonka, but I think low level might still work, it depends how affected the SAMs are by MP or if you can terrain mask properly
Just a side note:
12 km / 7.46 miles
The guarantee launch range is 11 km / 6.84 miles
Also, the guidance system is Semi-Automatic (SACLOS).
If you continue to spam flares/chaff like some did for the Roland 1s. You are just wasting time! Enjoy getting clapped!
And why did you even decide that the zombers would go anywhere? You get 250+ points for just one ITO — you just take a Su-25SM3 with 4 missiles and basically do the same thing.
Roland was SACLOS too, and immune to countermeasures. They also reliably sniped F-117’s, even under low light conditions.
I guess the major differences will be range, ceiling speed and agility. Rolands could be survived moderately well, if one was careful. With the ItO that bubble will of course be larger.
What could be an interesting aspect would be an active SEAD role for aircraft with suitable stand off-weapons higher up.
I mean glide bombs, kh38 etc can already do that
Gps bombs can be tjrown far as well
Just tried it out with Buccaneer and AJ.168: Works ok, but it’s recommended to bring Pave Spike as well to spot the SAM’s from farther away.
Just now on Winter Stalingrad, a Su-24 destroyed 7 ITOs in one sortie using FAB UMPKs. The only difference from zombie bombers with rockets is that this kind of zombie with glide bombs earns more points, lol. Well, and it’s a bit more fun too.
Bro likes to have SLM at 1.0
When can my mate know the sim af have components, and know 12km is the absolute max range without any accuracy with dumb bombs tossed at 10km, 1mach
And our part grinding…
But this is fun indeed I used tornado for a few runs lol thanks to the gps gliders
yet… what about pvp in small maps? people can run away from mid map or abuse the edge of this 0 warning AA
well i just toss bombed using a harrier at 8km alt with no risk of dying around 15km from air field using dumb bombs… if a harruer t10 can do it anyone can.
i used @Morvran ccrp guide its actually amazing

Only minor “but…” i’ll chuck in there, the Harrier T10 has an amazing HUD for it.
Even Something half decent like the Tonka… is missing the necessary HUD for any kind of moderate long range accuracy, Lofting is a bit of a bodge job with the current CCRP ingame
true… a lot of huds ccrp is broken or is even missing.
Yep… God damn they need to overhaul CCRP, more now than ever
wait do we have side slip compensation ingame?