It is literally a MiG-21. It may be a better variant of a MiG-21, but it’s not better than a MiG-21 seeing as it is a MiG-21
it is better than a mig21 considering china doesnt have a mig21, so compared to the mig21, the j7e is better
China has a MiG-21, it’s called the J-7 series
Also which MiG-21 is The MiG-21? Are we talking the Faceplate, the 21-93, the F-13, the Bis, SPS-K, S (R-13-30), PFM, MF, Bis-Sau, or SMT? Hell if we want to get fancy, Ye-1, MiG-23, Ye-4, Ye-50, and Ye-5 to add to that list
Spoiler
Yes, there is a MiG-23 under the Faceplate platform (Faceplate denotes early prototype MiG-21s, specifically Ye-2/Ye-2A
Anyone Tking over a base should just delete the game and never come back
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found one guys
u dont understand that in the a5c bases are basically the only way to get rp, its so hard to get guns on, and the missiles are only rear aspect
It’s is a capable fighter, not the planes fault you struggle with it.
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“I only TK because I’m ba- My Plane’s bad and my teammates are minding their own business trying to play the game just like me!”
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Imagine wasting your time bombing bases instead of refining your skills to combat players 🥱
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Meanwhile… I hate fighting the A-5Cs whenever I try to play 9.7 aircraft because they are suprsonic, have great rear-aspect IR missiles and turn fairly well. Oh AND they have CMs.
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why do people in a tech tree mig21 need to take napalm? they dont need rp its just greedy
Just take a moment and look at where the MiG-21 sits in the tech tree
MiG-21 (Family) - War Thunder Wiki
Do you need it more than them?
Really?
You so seem like the greedy one TKing people over a damned base.
Maybe the game isn’t good for your mental health?
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I mean, it’s only that way bc gaijin made it like that. They easily could’ve given the F-15C a better radar in December and it would’ve been enough to bump it up to 14.0 but not enough for absolute dominance
F-111F is higher BR than bombnado though.
111A I really doubt is faster, I beat 111A in an F-105D
There are 7 Tornado IDS in game
3 at 11.3
3 at 11.7
and 1 at 12.3
The F-111F is at 11.7. So whilst its higher than 3, its also the same BR as 3 and much lower than 1.
Most of the TT Tornados are the 11.7 BR though, with 2 of those at 11.3 either being event or a premium.
But does 111F on optimal single base load reliably beat an 11.7 tornado on optimal single base load? I think it’s worth testing to be sure
And don’t tornadoes get way more CM and better radars?
I would be confident the F-111F would beat the Tornado to the base. Tornado would get airbourne faster and take the early lead, but the F-111F (providing they arent running stupid amounts of fuel) would catch up and overtake the Tornado
For CMs and looking only those at 11.3/11.7 More chaff, but less flares
F-111F has 60 LCMs and 180 CMs if memory serves me right?
Tornado IDS has 56 large flares and 1200 large chaff. So against a SARH/ARH threat the Tornado is much better, but if you are facing things with just IR missiles, which is still very common at that BR, then the F-111F might be better off.
As for radar.
The F-111F has the F-5Es radar as a placeholder but it is an actual A2A Radar, the Tornado have an ACM mode that is it. and missing 99% of its radar functionality (inlcuding potentailly a basic A2A SRC radar)
Also the F-111F gets MAWS
True, but since tornado also has large flares, and 28 pops, it should be able to deal with most IR threats on the way and back
It can hold them at bay a bit, but if you want to engage in any sort of pre-flaring, 28 presses doesnt last very long. Meanwhole in the F-111F, you could run 60 Large flares + 60 standard flares + 120 chaff. doubling hte number of CM presses you can do, and pre-flaring more.
the best defence against something like a Mirage F1 or even a Mig-23 in a headon is pre-flaring
so F-111F has good IR and decent radar countermeasure, but Tornado has unrivaled radar countermeasures and adequate IR? seems pretty balanced to me