Fighter jets are OP in air sim

Wiki says the Netz is 12.3 in sim, weird.

Both Netz are 12.3 in Sim, I was surprised the other F-16 with only AIM-9L are still 12.7

Gaijin won’t give you the same progress in PVE gamemode, idk if you have ever touched helicopters PVE, but RP gain in this mode is very poor.

They really should give us alternative modes where we can grind for similar progress. PVP is just painful for air rb. IMO I have more fun in air sim the few times I played but I need stick and throttle for that. MNK is just painful in sim

You gotta be specific on how PVP in the game mode is “painfull” when most of the pain is from BR compression more than anything else tbh.

Just get a controller, you shouldn’t get HOTAS unless you actually plan on playing dedicated sims

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Yes we do.

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That.

I’ve played Heli EC both when it was PvP (which was a pain because of vast BR differences and abusing the mode) and after it became PvE (which again was very imbalanced BR-wise and veeeery boring and unchallenging). Rewards are ridiculously low, I believe really mostly because it can be so easily abused: Play a top-of-the-foodchain heli, and you cando something, play anything below and all you get are scraps at best, be that in the form of kills and rewards.

Eh, most people unless they are desperate for RP, will leave after 3-4 deaths.

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Circling back to the original topic: If one dies too many times in sim, there may be some reason to it, and it’s not necessarily the games fault.

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It’s called just don’t be against experienced players as a noob and only fly whatever the best plane is for the day.

There’s nothing wrong to have to learn new stuff, I also do so regularly, also failing a lot to get where I want to be.

There’s also nothing wrong with the rotation approach we have atm, and being able to select when to fly what is a unique possibility in WT, again, I personally find.

What I would find dangerous and killing for the whole game mode is to make it fully PvE, or split it into PvE and PvP.

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When the average team composition is USA noobs and every halfway experienced player is concentrated on to one side in rafall or su-30 sm2…the results are very predictable.

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Yeah the matchmaking is absolutely abysmal in this game.
You get the wrong kind of special forces for your team and then you have the real special forces on the enemy team in any mode.

12.3/12.7 BRs are a mess because for quite a while 12.3 didnt have a bracket, so the lowest anything at 12.3 could actually play was 12.7.

Gaijin hasnt done a proper BR change for SB since they added those 12.3 brackets like a year ago.

I seriously don’t care about the BRs, they are not that big of a problem, a lot of this problems would be solved with 256x256km maps, the attackers would had a way bigger percentage of survival with bigger maps, right now when j want to farm I just go in the small maps and kill attackers that they just want to bomb because I know their routes

There are some aircraft rendered DOA by BR.

9.7 is quite a mess at the moment and some aircraft are randomly higher in ASB for no apparent reason like the Buc S1 and Javelin.

Sea Harrier FRS1 / AV-8S (Late), and Hawk 200 RDA being the same BR as the Mig-23MLD renders them totally pointless. So the Mig-23ML, MLA, and MLD should all move up to 11.7 along with the Phantom FGR2 / FG1. There are a few like the F-4E that could then go up a bit too. Then the Tornado GR1, ASSTA1 and (1995) can move down to 11.3.

Then stuff like the Harrier Gr7 and Tornado GR4 / SLE shouldnt be 12.3 (though the same goes for ARB too). 12.0 would be a lot more healthy, especially with stuff like the Mig-29 moving down.

Tornado F3 Late being 13.3 whilst the F4F ICE is 13.0 is just BS.

F-14A and B, D are all probably too low in ASB.

Etc etc.

Combine with gamewide issues like the Su-30 premiums being too low or how to properly place the F-18s, and you create some pretty notable problem areas withwise to BRs.

Though yes, bigger and better maps, combined with better PvE elements would certainly help in some places as well

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13.3-13.0 is pure nonsense, I remember the Kfir when it was 13.0, the Su-27 and Su-33 are the same br with the su-30…

Forgot it even existed, is that the Norwegian?

Yea as far I can see they are the solution, I am thinking about making suggestions for big 256x256km maps for Sim like Cyprus and Crete but it will be a waste of time as Gaijin don’t really cares about sim…

Yeah, lets just hope they dont forget about ASB if/when they sort out the ARB BRs

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Yep :P

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Still kinda pissed that the Falklands is at 1:2 scale

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