All fighter jets should be severely higher in BR in air sim, a BR outside of attack and bomber jets. Either that or give us a PvE RB/Sim gamemode that gives THE EXACT SAME PROGRESS as Air Sim like PvE Helicopter battles. Just do something about it.
Because air sim is sadder than people realise. You’d have 8 teammates and 3 enemies, and all of you just wanna bomb ground things and do jet runs with Su-24s and Su-25s, but the 3 NATO opponents playing F-16s, Mirage, and E2K, are just eating all of you off cooldown the moment you take off.
Such fun and interactive gameplay. Get rid of it.
As a CAS player, I’m forced to play Ground RB and be a disgusting pig, which I actually don’t wanna do I just wanna chill and bomb things.
The issue I see here is that you fly aircraft in rotations where they are completely outclassed:
Su-24M ist at 11.3, the highest Su-25/-39 at 11.7.
Earliest M2K is at 12.3, earliest F-16 at 12.7, and you wont see Eurofighters until 14.0
So, flying Fencers or Frogfoots in matches where the fighters you mentioned fly, is of course suicidal, and it’s upon you that you join matches with vastly superior fighters in your attackers.
Fly those attackers during days / in matches where 11.3, 11.7 are the maximum BR!
Another thing that many attacker pilots often completely ignore, as I often observe myself, is that they take off, climb and blindly trundle to their targets, with zero use of tactics and smart use of low altitude and terrain to prevent getting detected and engaged. Many players make it just too easy to kill them, then they get upset and blame the game for their own questionable decisions…
As a strike aircraft enjoyer. Just leave the match whenever there is more than 3-4 players on the enemy team, unless you like getting shot down or forced to engage in A2A combat constantly. If there’s no room with that few people, tough luck, create one and wait. Also, most important step, search every single match on every single server.
There are also some tactics you can use to get through heavily defended airspace. Mainly switching between high and low.
Of course terrain works and is important! Therefore also the choice of maps play an important role.
A good attacker pilot can really make a fighter pilot sweat if he flies low.
Don’t get discouraged: you’re still extremely new in Sim, with less than two dozen matches in Sim in attackers. And if you now already fly 11.3/11.7 attackers against 12.3-14.3 fighters, you’re really not doing yourself a favor: Not only are the aircraft you face vastly superior, but also the players have much more experience with them and the maps.
I don’t remember a single match within the last 1, 2 years where I got killed on the airfield, especially not at the BR’s you mentioned. Especially now with the powerful ItO’s defending the airbases, enemies getting close is rare (again: at the BR’s your aircraft are).
Lol no, they should tho make a server only PVE for people who want that and all the other servers to be PVP ( like make NA servers PVE and all the others PVP, and just choose what you want)
The sim community is already stretched too thin, reducing it further through such a separation I find very counterproductive.
I myself fly attackers a lot (9.7 to 11.7 mainly - I don’t go much higher than that…), and never have I found that fighters are too oppressive for bombing bases and attacking ground targets at those BR’s. What can happen that matches are unbalanced in general regarding player numbers, but there’s always the possibility to join another, better populated match. Usually “fresh” matches are better balanced than matches that already run for 90 minutes and more, I find.
The only reason I can see that people want such a mode is (sorry to have to put it this way), mindless grinding, which is soon awfully boring if there’s no challenge, and doesn’t help the game mode at all. That at least my personal view.
I disagree, sometimes playing bombers like the TU-95, B-53, TU-4 is torture because people farm from you, even the IL-28 that is better isn’t the best experience, when I am stock or trying to play with my brain off trying to enjoy my favourite strike aircraft I prefer to have PVE, also a bit part of the community (or just guys that play Sim just to grind) like PVE so much that if you get in a random game trying to PVP they will curse your entire bloodline, so it would be better to have separate PVP and PVE so people can enjoy whatever they want
Of course there’s also this. I don’t think all vehicles are well suited for WT gameplay… = /
I wish them good luck with that, haha! devilish GM grin
No seriously, please report such miscreants. Noone is allowed to try to force you to play the game in a way that is not intended. And getting insulting is a clear no go under any circumstance.
Proceeds to report half of the air sim players on the SA server
As annoying as the insults are, it is better than how the second a lobby realizes someone is doing PvP, they all leave. Or those on your team reporting your location to the others so they can focus you until you give up.
If you are struggling with CAS i suggest joining one of the many WT sim communities out there, and try to look for players who can help escort of keep enemies at bay. This is not a jet issue, this is a team skill issue.