Falcon SPAA needs to be 8.0 again

You never started. I’m at this point thinking you came here to ragebait

According to historic sources Ger captured numerous Churchill tanks. That many that they included them into regular units and used them in combat. There are countless photos of Churchills in regular German army service.

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Looks like you are correct - Nazi’s repurposed 2 of the 29 tanks they captured at Dieppe.

Still confident no Maus or Panther II were ever finished, let alone made it into combat.

And ironically, Falcon never made it out of prototype phase.

And both were removed from ingame TTs.

However, Maus is unfair. I would be fine with Maus removal, cause there were just two prototypes ever made (V1 and V2). But please, then also remove never adopted projects like Falcon, Sgt York and many more. Either all or nothing.

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Please knock it off with this revisionist crap.

The maus was strictly, and ONLY, removed because it was considered “unbalancable” by gaijin. that is what they gave for reasoning. It had ZILCH, NADA, NOTHING to do with “ahistoricality”. THAT is the reason the Panther II, Tiger 2 105, and Coelien were removed, not the Maus.

Can add other vehicles to the “dubious” list like the Kikka jet fighter… which is in the main Tech Tree, not the Premium tree.

“The Nakajima Kikka, initially designated Kōkoku Nigō Heiki, was Japan’s first turbojet-powered aircraft. It was developed late in World War II, and the single completed prototype flew only once, in August 1945, before the end of the conflict.”

Repeat: Maus was not removed for historical reasons

Britain is not allowed to have anything cracked or meta. IE Fox.

Almost every single vehicle with aphe relies on that shell to do one shots, thats the problem with aphe, gaijin wanted to rework it but the people have spoken, aphe of the falcon has like 30 grams of tnt so ofc its gonna be busted, especially with that fire rate.

So Gaijin actually listens to the “people”? Maybe some, but certainly not all, considering the number of issues the game has.

So maybe you can answer me this (not to put you on the spot or anything)…

How does moving the Falcon from 8.0 to 8.3 solve the “problem”?

  • has the same gun
  • has the same ammo
    -will still be able to shred many of the ground vehicles because armor, for the most part, does not get thicker going up that 1 step.

All I see it accomplishing is (possibly) pushing the players overall garage BR from 8.0 to 8.3 and making it slightly more difficult for the Falcon to act as an spaa - the purpose for which it was added to the game.

the only thing the uptier to 8.3 did is solidified falcons position as an ifv. Gaijin did listen to people on the aphe thing by making a poll, if they didn’t do that and just reworked aphe it would cause a massive community outcry.

Who is saying it does?

Falcon caused more balancing issues than Maus ever did. Wounder why they won’t remove the Falcon or at least APDS.

they believe they can just uptier it until the apds stops becoming a problem

I still see alot unarmored MBTs and other vehicles all the way up to 10.0. Brrrp.

7.0 is not too low with its current setup if the APDS round is removed from the belt, which in this thread has now been proven to be at least fairly historical. The Kugelblitz is at 7.0 with about the same effectiveness, and there is the M163 with a basic radar tracking function at 7.7. With its missing parts like optical tracking it could be 7.7 maybe 8.0 if said features were implemented (This depends on how good the optical tracking is, if its as good as ZA-35 it would be 8.3 - 8.7 as well), but it has no right to be higher than 7.3 without them and its APDS.

(note: i see now the topic has been resolved, didnt mean to flog a dead horse, sorry :P)

Can we just remove the HVAP? I miss having an effective SPAA in my 7.7 lineup. Using the Skink is crap.

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I see you played some matches!

Yeah Skink has extremely poor k/d performance but I still prefer it to Bosvark because of the better survivability.

Aye, finally had a moment of free time to get my forum privileges back. I have appeased the Snail. Lol.

Welp just joined into say that they have nerfed it. It’s still 8.3 but the APDS is now a 1 in 4 belt rather than pure APDS fun.

On the flipside, maybe it’ll now actually disable a barrel (which the XM800 seems to manage with ease against Chieftains for example)