They already up tiered the Falcon from 7.7. so it’s pretty useless to Airpower. The APDS is the only thing going for it.
So take it away and now from 5.5 to 8.3 you have nothing…
If they trial it and it’s stupid I hope they find another SPAA, maybe some kind of Bofores 40mm.
And then it will get nerfed because Hurr Durr, 40mm Bofors pens my MBT. /s
Oh wait, that’s right! Motorola thinks the M247 is an OP tank killer. It’s not Sarcasm afterall.
Still much better than seeing AAs run around the city.
At that point it isn’t AA anymore.
Just like ZSU-57-2 at 7.0.
I hope you aren’t defending current APHE interaction with cupolas.
You’re absolutely delusional.
BTW, if Falcon’s 1st shell in belt was APHE it means APDS was fired at APHE velocity and with lower penetration because of that.
You really have no consistency.
Guess the FlakBus should be an SPAA, not a TD. Maybe the Skink should join the Terminator and have the wrong classification and instead be a TD too! That sounds fun.
I am not, but APDS isn’t APHE, now is it? This post is about APDS, not APHE or SAP.
Am I? Or are you calling me a liar?
You seem pretty offended here that I said it wasn’t Overpowered.
Hell, you even deleted some of your comments. Lol
Yeah, cuz I want to play a C&P USA tank with no line up on Germany rather than the German tanks
try 20-30mm between the driving wheels, it’s the same with every T-series, although the later ones have rubber fabric screens that help a little.
It’s not a suggestion it’s my opinion. same as the OP who posted the title: “Falcon SHOULDN"T remove apds” is he being aggressive too?
Completely missing my point, I’m saying it can go to a BR in the game where it is more effective against aircraft, again in the game not IRL.
you don’t have to try to balance a Tiger between is SPAA and AT abilities though do you?
So if I have a bad KD I can’t tell what kills me more vs less or what I do more bad vs less bad in? dose the fact I die in ARB make my opinion less valid than the guy that runs away and AF camps to pad his score?
Again, read the title of the thread
I also gave my opinion, and the fact that the Falcon still has a round capable of killing almost any tank it will face is far from irrelevant. you “theory” about my state of mind while entertaining is irrelevant.
Again your interpretation, I have already apologized for the misunderstanding.
which doesn’t change that it never used or has any proof it was planed to use APDS.
Be my guest and find me AAs that are purpose built to fight in CQC or that at least have some upgrade packages for urban combat. I can find you loads of MBTs though.
APHE (which Falcon has) interaction with cupolas is pure BS.
Adding APDS to the mix in the same belt just makes things worse when it comes to things being broken.
Not a liar, just a bit… challenged as it seems you can’t read and understand things properly.
I was talking about M247 being overpowered against air, not ground lol.
Good thing that you keep track of things, but do it right next time.
My posts obviously triggered some people that reported them, causing a removal.
I don’t delete anything myself.
The M48A2 in Germany is a unique vehicle using DM23; it’s hardly a copy and paste. The US doesn’t have an M48 with a 105mm gun anymore.
And certainly, you can play the Leopard, but why are you brawling with it? A Falcon shouldn’t outduel you in ranged combat.
You can go through the upper side. I did it just today, in fact. It is easier to aim for the lower side, though.
Then why express it as an absolute fact? “100% shouldn’t” isn’t “opinion”, it implies a statistical and measurable fact.
“Falcon SHOULDN’T remove APDS” is a stated opinion, while “100% SHOULD lose APDS and should have years ago” is not because it states 100 Percent, implying absolute certainty and that the OP is horrifically wrong out of any questionable measure. Words matter, whether you realize how you use them or not.
I don’t particularly care about this squabble, but I told you that it sounded rude. You don’t need to continue talking about it.
A single word emphasising opinion is not the same as “100%” when calling them wrong. It comes off as controlling, whether you realize it or not. Regardless, it does not matter to me. I simply stated that words should be used properly to not give off incorrect intentions, if you meant to simply disagree.
You really should word your sentences better. It’s not convincing when you make your argument off “100% shouldn’t” and emotional reactions.
And the German Mig-29 didn’t use R-27 missiles, the Leopard 2A7 didn’t use DM53, and Russian Tanks haven’t particularly used 3BM60.
It doesn’t matter.
Being built for and participating in CQC are two different things. The Bradley was never built to hunt tanks, yet it destroyed more than the Abrams during Desert Storm.
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I can find you loads of MBTs though.
Find me a tank built from the ground up to fight within urban combat while driving recklessly.
Then remove the APHE, not the APDS. This post is about the APDS.
You can delete your replies about the M247 “being good at killing tanks as well” all you want.
Good thing you delete replies, right? You wouldn’t like me digging up prior statements contradicting your current ones, would you?
So you should be able to edit them, right? Lol.
If your statements weren’t against the rules (often insulting other players), they wouldn’t get reported and removed. If you were confident they weren’t against the rules, you’d simply edit them. If they were removed again, moderators could easily wave the removal.
You don’t do that, though.
It’s a SPAA. It’s mean for anti aircraft fire. Maybe try using it as ur supposed to and see if the vehicle is still ruined
Yeah nah. I once said in forums that Taiwan isn’t part of China and it got reported and removed instantly. Some people abuse the reporting rule.
Politics is strictly forbidden. That’s a rule break. I won’t speak on it further as I don’t want to get the same situation here.
With all do respect, you don’t even have a vehicle that can see the Falcon outside of your XM800T, which is likely because its massive BR changes. I wouldn’t really interact here about it.
Especially when the XM800T is one of the most hated vehicles in the game.
Bradley isn’t an AA and it has ATGMs.
Destroying stationary tanks from a decent distance is way different than running around city streets, actively looking for targets to kill.
Merkava is heavily CQC oriented tank as the needs of Israeli army were just that, building something heavy that can enter cities and soak up shots from various different angles.
You can’t if APDS isn’t a standalone belt.
Yes, I’d definitely speak about M247’s ability to kill tanks in a thread about BUK, which has 0 anti tank ability. It can kill tanks but it’s way more overpowered against air at it’s BR.
I guess you still can’t comprehend the fact that staff can remove your posts.
There’s a difference between a hidden and removed post.
You can only edit hidden posts which are still shown on the forum, where only their content is hidden.
This post was hidden due to flags from the community, so please consider how you might revise your post to reflect their feedback. You can edit your post after 3 minutes, and it will be automatically unhidden.
This post was flagged by the community and a staff member opted to remove it.
Two different things.
Ah yes, go ahead and try to silence my opinion with providing a counter argument. The issue with apds is that it would be used in emergencies by spaa, rather than all the time for tank hunting duties. However, the emergency shells are being abused as they are effective at tank killing, so spaa is losing its purpose, feeding the CAS problem. In real life, the apds would be used extremely rarely as it would ruin the barrels, so it really shouldn’t be in game
In other words, because I care not to deal with this back and forth endless banter for the gaijillionth time, you just exposed yourself for doing exactly what I just said.
You insult people, belittle them, and such. You then use that as an excuse to say “Gaijin deleted my statements, so you can’t prove them, do better”.
Lmao
Is any of this arguing constructive to the forum? Shall we all agree to get back on topic?
yes, I have already stated I am bad at expressing myself through text, now since this entire thing seems to be nothing more than a difference of opinion reduced quibbling over the potential meanings of grammar choices, I am going to leave it at that, Gaijin will do what they do and we will see how it goes.
Next time take a screenshot earlier, before my posts talking about M247 in a thread about BUK get removed.
Accusing me of deleting posts is a new low though.
I’m not exactly silencing you, but how exactly would you know anything about it? It’s like a reserve player talking about top-tier balance…
Cherrypicked realism is really silly. Might as well make every German Tank’s engine break down from working too hard for too long. We could make British Challengers less accurate on hot maps, too.
Not every autocannon gets its barrel melted by using APDS. If you have something showing it with the Falcon and DCA’s guns, feel free to do so.
It is about anti-air and their ability to attack tanks, so yes, it is.
Uh, cuz I’ve played against it multiple times, both in wt and wtm, and I’ve seen friends playing against it.
