Falcon is one of UK’s funniest vehicles,but apds removal will completely destroy it.It is ridiculous that a spaa without radar in BR 8.3. Gaijin can balance it through rising BR instead of removing apds
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It 100% SHOULD lose APDS and should have YEARS ago. It still has SAP-I that can LOL pen a T-72 from the side as far out as 1.5km. I believe it’s also historically accurate as it was never planed to have APDS.
If the SAP-I only preforms badly against tanks it can be moves down and actually do its job as an SPAA.
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As a presumes Russian main you dont want to go down the “It was never meant to have it pathway”
It wont get moved down, its the Fox all over again.
Russia/ Japan and yes I think the Su-30s should lose the Kh-38s to and they don’t actually use them, they are limited to the Su-34 I believe (at least in terms of currently in-game aircraft). But it should lose the APDS anyway, the SAP-I is still quite deadly. The historical accuracy is an iffy proposition with Gaijin due to their selective nature, but it’s good to add a little extra to a point.
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Well imo Japan’s Su30MKM should also lose it’s R77-1 (or Rvv-SD) as it never carried them.
What did it actually carry? I assume R-77s? I think they are just desperate to get Japan a top rank fighter, since they missed the bus with the F-2A and added it after the Raf, which pretty well killed it.
Falcon not losing APDS would mean it would go up to 8.7 or even 9.0, which might create another wave of crying.
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Why shouldn’t spaa kill T72? 2s6 can kill leopard and abrams as well,do u think that they should also loss aphe?
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Falcon in 9.0 is also great,but without apds it is worse than m163.Remember,it doesn’t even have radar
They do not have APHE to begin with so that’s a mote point.
Also their solid shot AP only has 12mm more pen then the Falcons SAP-I with 30g of explosive incendiary filler (Remember that the ZSU-57-2 that everyone complains about has 20g HE filler, the SAP-I on the Falcon has 30g and the APHE on the Gepards etc. have 37g) and the 2S6 is 2.3 BR higher. If you want to compare them solely on their AT abilities then the falcon should still lose its APDS AND go up to 10.0/10.3.
But I would not be opposed to ALL SPAAs from 20mm up losing all AP ammo.
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YES IT SHOULD
it was OP and unfair
also forced britain to have a 5.3-8.3 SPAA hole
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i mean they could have added some thing to fill that gap but they didn’t
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the place be hit is only 20mm . are you realy know that? if it didn’t have APDS it still could kill you
The Falcon situation should’ve been solved by changing its vehicle class from SPAA to TD + a BR raise instead of just gimping it. Besides, There’s already precedents of Gaijin doing that with AA systems (ADATS).
At least, that’s my take for sure.
u actually wrote the headline false. It says that the falcon removes APDS, but it shoudnt?
True, it going up to 9.0 could’ve been better for the vehicle.
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Just spawn fox/scimitar/warrior
They either have worst firerate, silhouette or even (arguably) both in case of the Scimitar and Warrior.
Lol.
3 of them have scouting, 3 of them are much faster than falcon, 1 gets uav, thermals, rangefinder, atgms and commander sights for better atgm guidance. And finally, 3 of them will have their apds belts after those changes, unlike falcon.
Upd. Warrior is heavier as well so it loses less speed after colliding with random garbage on maps while being faster than falcon
Does anyone have any actual info that mentions the Falcon ever using APDS IRL?
From what i can tell, Gaijin simply copy pasted the shell from the RARDEN on the Warrior as they are both 30x170mm and have the exact same stats