The f4ej 2 is quite over tiered being at 11.0 in arb, it has a weak engine (for its airframe) making it slower then many other planes at its br so it is basically unable to run from enemy players. it has a shitty turn rate being at around 40 seconds to turn a circle at high altitudes and speed being unable to dogfight and being slow to run away from dogfights. it has a shitty loadout compared to most planes it faces like the mig 21’s j7’s mirage f1c’s and f4f ice and basically every other phantom, only having the aim-7e2 not (df) which has a 1.7 second sleep time after launch forcing it to be used for far range yet having a short range rocket motor. The aim-9p being bad compared to the pl7, magic 2, python 3, aim9l, r60mk and r60m all these enemies have good missiles that can have irccm and the 9p is easily flared while the jet has very hot engines that missiles chase all the time. so its a bad dog fighter bad radar fighter with its shitty radar with no pd or mti mode and ok rwr not being able to detect jband radar makes r24’s sneak up on u. for bombing it has no incindiary bombs having to carry 11 750lb bombs makes u even slower so by the time u reach the bases the mig 23’s and f104s taf already took all the bases. I feel that the mig 23ml should be uptiered to 12.0 and the f4ej 2 should be given either a better radar to actually use its missiles or better missile that can be used in a headon letting u able to fight people forcing u to dogfight.
This is incorrect. It has good t/w and good engines. They are the same as the F-4E at a higher BR and the F-4E does not struggle in this regard.
This is false. Absolute best loadout the MiG-21 gets at this BR is R-60Ms and they aren’t anything special.
I agree the J-7 is far better but this is because the J-7D is undertiered and the J-7E is one of the strongest 11.3s.
This is a 12.0 plane, please do not try to compare 11.0s to 12.0s.
F-4F ice is a 13.0 plane. You cannot face it in matchmaking.
It has the AIM-7E(1) not AIM-7E2. AIM-7E2 is far better.
Usually the PL-7 (Magic 1) is found on worse planes, save for the J-7D.
I know you aren’t facing the Jaguar IS at all so you’re talking about the Mirage F1. Let me remind you again that this is a 12.0 plane and you are not meant to have missiles equal to a plane an entire 1.0 br higher than you.
This is basically on nothing but the Kfir which again, is also 12.0. Same as above.
Again, only really on 12.0+ planes save for an F-5 and the A-10.
This is not better.
This is the same missile as the R-60MK.
Exactly zero of the missiles you mentioned have irccm with the exception of the Magic 2 which again, 12.0 plane.
So are the AIM-9Ls, Python 3s, Magic 1s, and R-60Ms you mentioned.
I have never had issues flaring missiles in the phantoms.
You are again, trying to compare it directly to 12.0 fighters as these are the only ones with a PD or MTI mode with the exception of the MiG-23 at 11.7.
This is not World of Tanks. You can’t ask for fake buffs or nerfs that don’t have a direct basis in reality. The planes get their real radars.
With ALL of this said, the F-4EJ is VERY MID at 11.0 but its not BAD, and your solution to it being very mid is to ask for DECOMPRESSION and the uptiering of the problematic planes like the J-7D.
F-4EJ Phantom ii is the best 11.0 in the game with amazing SARH missiles that counter MiGs perfectly, on top of that you can add 3 20mm cannons which melts anything. Use it like a P-47.